Catarct Canyon is a great river trip. The rapids, "Satan's Gut" made the list of The Big Drops, Ten Legendary Rapids of the American West by boatman and professor, Rod Nash. Running it early in the spring is a real challenge.
Lets take RMNP as an example. 3.5 million visitors at a count of 2 per car. That is 1.75 million cars. Some of which will have annual passes (anybody know the number?) Lets assume 30%. That means 1.23 million paying vehicles. With a $10 increase, thats $12 million in additional revenue on top of $ 24 million already collected. Thats alot of restrooms.
EC, the rest of the story..."Congress just passed a CR which (even though this was not widely reported) included an across the board reduction of 0.2108%. That lasts, of course, through December 11."The Administration's proposed centennial bill, which would increase funding for FY16, has zero chance of passing the Congress -- especially with the disarray in the House now.
Seems like if the total request was for $433 million and $150 is infrastructure that leaves alot for personnel.
Another question, are the "fees" outside the budgeted amount and how much did they total in 2014?
Owen - manifest destiny and expansion have been with this world since man evolved. There is hardly a country that exists today that wasn't established through conquest - frequently at the expense of the natives. Even the Native Americans were guilty of that. (I would guess there are many Native Americans that are thinking like Mark Twain at the moment).
I cannot help but think that EC's comment that "Yes, we are more important...." is reflective of the attitude that ultimately justified US manifest destiny and western expansion, which directly contributed to the demise of Native Americans and altered the ecological landscape of the continent.
Lee - The old and very tired strawman that tries to declare that we will all have to return to cave dwelling
How ironic, you uses the word "strawman" in your strawman attack. Noone said anything about cave dwelling.
Excellent reply, Ron.
If each of us does a little, many of us will do a lot.
The old and very tired strawman that tries to declare that we will all have to return to cave dwelling is one of the most unimaginative of a number of dodges used by those whose sense of entitlement supercedes their sense of responsibility.
EC, a fair question. I am not sure how much I could sacrifice, but I think we can do much. For starters, we can make a greater effort to re-cycle, quit using plastic bags, bottled water, cut down on our driving where possible, slow down on roads, etc. Small things but can add much.
Thank you Lisa and Barbara, I am in agreement. As habitat for wildlife becomes increasingly fractured and human expansion continues to increase with all the associated activities, poisons, high speed roads, etc., it is a real concern. For example here in California over the last 100 years plus, we have reduced our freshwater wetlands by 90%. I do think Dr.
Barbara - no need to yell. And yes, we are more important.
Oct 12th - 14:08pm |
barbara ann thornley
PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE , YOU ARE MOVING IN ON THEIR LAND AND HABITAT , IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO USE ANY FORCE OR POISONS ON THESE ANIMALS IN AREAS UNLESS YOU ARE IN IMINNENT DANGER , AND THEN THER SHOULD BE AN INVESTIGATION AS TO WHY THEY HAD TO KILL THE ANIMAL , AND IF THERE WERE OTHER ALTERNATIVES, THEN THE KILLER NEEDS JAIL TIME JUS TLIKE IN ANY OTHER MURDER WHETHER IT'S HUMAN OR ANIMAL , ESP
Oct 12th - 11:14am |
Lisa Owens Viani
Please stop using rat poison and let the natural predators that are so good at controlling rodents do their job. This is an active, ongoing environmental catastrophe--we are killing hawks, owls, bobcats, mountain lions, foxes, and others--from something as senseless and "convenient" as rat poison when there are other non-toxic methods of rodent control.
Ah - Kalaloch. Stayed there one night. The site was spacious but in the forested area. Most of the sites with views of the Pacific were RV-only. Saw one heck of a sunset on the beach with a backdrop of driftwood logs.
Thank you Lee for bringing back some great memories. I've only been to Olympic once, but my time there was amazing. The best part were the sunsets at Kalaloch. The only National Park Campground that rivals Kalaloch for me is Jenny Lake.
What confuses me is the idea that packrafting down a river is a problem in yellowstone, which has huge, wide cut TRAILS throughout the entire park. The whole of the park has these corridors that allow thousand to walk right into wilderness. How are they not a much bigger impact?
I agree with EC and don't believe that congress should micromanage the NPS (or any other agency). However, when constituents complain loud enough about being denied or restricted access by an agency for dubious reasons not supported by science certain members of congress, apparently, believe they now must get involved.
The language in Rep. Lummis' amendment to her bill specifically uses "shall," and not "may." As such, it directs the Park Service to open up the river/stream segments she specifies in her amendment (if Congress as a whole passes her bill and the president does not veto it.) As EC notes, it removes NPS discretion in the matter.
Dr. Runte has nailed it again.
Yes, tell us about Breckenridge or Park City or Dizzyland or sports stadia or condo developments and gated communities and we can then point to all sorts of taxpayer paid infrastructure that supports developers as they convince local governments to adopt yet another example of Modern American Socialism.
I would have to do the research, EC, but I would bet that Disneyland's argument goes something like this: Given all of the jobs we generate, our property taxes should be low. Here in Seattle, that argument has put millions into the pockets of every developer while sticking the tax burden on the middle class.
What both of you are forgetting is that the national parks were "privatized" years ago. Concessionaires (private interests) reap the profits for the sake of a franchise "fee." For that fee, Uncle Sam staffs, protects, and maintains the parks, i.e., does everything that isn't profitable.
I don't see anyone slinking off. I see the article attributing the success to state marketing efforts and private investment. If higher tax dollars are your goal for these lands (its not mine) who knows how much could be raised if these lands were 100% state and privately owned. I dare guess that tax revenues per acre are far higher on private land than federal land.
In Utah, we love to hate the federal lands. But then something like this comes along and the gummint haters kind of slink off into the shadows for awhile until the hoopla dies down.
While on the other hand, it also lends a lot of weight to Michael Frome's thesis that our parks are becoming little more than money machines.
We need more people like Michael Frome. And at this time of centennial, we should be shouting from the rooftops the story of the conflicts built into the Enabling Act. We are missing a wonderful opportunity to educate Americans. Let's not just encourage them to descend upon our parks like plagues of locust. Let's teach them how they may enjoy their parks while still PRESERVING them.
I was hiking to iceberg lake in September and encountered this same bear. The Rangers had to set off flashbacks to chase her off because she was doing false changes on hikers. I'm glad they aren't going to punish her for being a good mother. Way way to many 60 year old plus hikers in the back country. If you need a break every 100 yards maybe you shouldn't hike 10 miles in the mountains.