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Plan Crafted To Address Threats To Whitebark Pine Forests in Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem

Jun 2nd - 14:49pm | ecbuck

Aaron, You want to go with "anecodal evidence" over the hard factual numbers?  That seems to be the problem with the climate change alarmist - and why so many of us are skeptical.  Alarmists argue from their sincerity rather than from the science.

Jun 2nd - 14:44pm | tomp2

I don't have time to search my archives for the appropriate climate data (I'm on a winBUGS webinar of NPS folks learning proper use of a statistical tool).

Jun 2nd - 13:39pm | Aaron Lund

Kurt, Thanks for all the supplemental information.  Also, nice job with your responses.  I think most of us have observed enough anecdotal evidence of climate change with our own eyes that you have to seriously question the sincerity of anyone who tries to argue that climate change isn't happening.

Jun 2nd - 12:52pm | ecbuck

"he monthly temperature charts on those pages also show the average daily max. temp in the park, measured from 1948-2005, was 52.9 F, which was up just slightly from the average daily max. temp measured between 1971-2000 (52.7 F)." So again, the more recent numbers were below, not above the prior years - though I would deam the delta as not signficantly.

Jun 2nd - 12:06pm | Kurt Repanshek

Well, ecbuck, not exactly sure where in the park those temperatures were taken, but the page you linked to shows average snow depth in January and February as 8 inches, which I think the snowplow operators might disagree with.

Jun 2nd - 11:38am | ecbuck

Kurt - Here is the actual chart of average temps in Yellowstone 1990 -2006

Jun 2nd - 11:19am | Rick B.

Healthy skepticism these days, of course, will generally include tracing anti-climate change rhetoric to one or another front for Big Oil. Easiest way to find this is to list the congresspeople who argue against climate change and examine their major contributors.

Jun 2nd - 10:31am | Kurt Repanshek

ecbuck, True, many of the reports are based on the same or similar scientific studies, but they are scientific studies just the same, more than a few produced by Dr. Logan. As for the GYCC report this post was based on, here's another snippet from it that points to the science:

Jun 2nd - 09:19am | ecbuck

Kurt, I have read many such materials and attended many related presentations.  These materials generally don't represent actual studies and science but rather claims with references - to others claims with references - often cirulating back to themselves. 

Jun 2nd - 08:54am | Kurt Repanshek

ecbuck, I've come across a lot of reports on the impacts of climate change, and all point to warming winters, not beetle acclimation, for the problem. Among those reports and groups that cite climate change as enabling beetles to move higher in elevation and attack whitebark pine:

Jun 2nd - 07:35am | ecbuck

Kurt You state as fact that the whitepine have moutain beetle activity "thanks to climate change".  Could you specificy the "climate change" in Yellowstone and show where no other factor may be the contributor - i.e beetle acclimation.

Where Can You See Wildlife Right Now: Wolves, Bison and Bears in Yellowstone National Park

Jun 2nd - 14:01pm | Gloria Grant

My husband John and I go to Yellowstone yearly.  We love to come the third week of June and stay for a week.  We love Lamar Valley and last couple of years, Hayden has also been wonderful for us.  Can't wait to come again!!!!

Grizzly Bear Shot and Killed By Hikers In Denali National Park and Preserve

Jun 2nd - 11:42am | Anonymous

If the hikers were being charged and eared for their lives that is enough just cause to shoot...or should we wait for the bear to rip off one's head?

When Did Dancing In The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Become A Crime?

Jun 2nd - 09:58am | Ron Saunders

Lee That , I can understand. Where do these guys come from ?

Jun 2nd - 09:17am | Ed123

the government has dedicated a space with a solemn commemorative purpose that is incompatible with the full range of free expression that is permitted in public forums. Really! the Jefferson Memorial. is incompatibel with free expression?

Jun 2nd - 07:37am | Lee Dalton

Ron, those things were clipped directly from this group's website.  As I read through a lot of their gibberish, I was completely bewildered by whatever "message" they are trying to get across.

Jun 1st - 21:32pm | hikegnp

Don't feel to sorry for these folks geting arrested.  They do it on a regular basis.  They are part of the group Codepink and have staged demonstrations may times that have gotten them arrested.  They are not innocent victims.  Seems ironic that they are complaining about being in a police state, but if their Marxist/Communist/Socialist political views are implemented they would really have a p

Jun 1st - 16:51pm | Vince Brewster

Medea Benjamin, Adam Kokesh, and Co. got exactly what they wanted with their publicity stunt: lots of publicity, arrests, and unwarranted sympathy for their claim that they live in a police state.

Jun 1st - 12:54pm | Ron Saunders

Well here I go again. One question after viewing the video and reading the comments: What happened to good old COMMON SENSE ? This has become my favorite phrase recently in light of all the regulations, policies, litigations and best available science. I got to tell you that in my opinion, it's a TIE.

Jun 1st - 12:46pm | Anonymous

Your right sir. People kissing or slow dance in public is just a vile act of terrorism and against everything America stands for. I also suggest we arrest anyone with Obama or palin shirts and Any other form of political expression should either be forced to strip or down or go to jail. Obviously stripping down should send you directly to jail.

Jun 1st - 10:10am | Brad

While I get the people were there for that reason, trying to stir things up and make an anti-government video, I am not sure I understand why the officer could not or would not cite what law was being broken.  Also, near the end the officer told the cameraman you're not allowed to video in here.  Really?  I've always had my video camera on vacation trips to the DC monuments.  Was I breaking a l

May 31st - 22:57pm | Anonymous

You would seem to be one of those liberals intent on perfecting the 'nanny state'.  I hope you never achieve such a dream as even yourself would deeply regret it!

May 31st - 14:26pm | Lee Dalton

Anonymous, there is obviously much more behind this video.  It's very easy to edit video to make the cops look like total bad guys. I'd very much like to hear the entire story.  Unedited.

May 31st - 12:58pm | Anonymous

You disagree with him, so what.  Does this anyone the right to body slam, choke, assault, arrest, and detain a fellow citizen?  They were harming no one.

May 31st - 12:53pm | Lee Dalton

I read a whole bunch of gobbledegook on the website.  Doesn't seem to make much sense but seems to be either a radical right or radical left political site.  Here's another example: "Tonight on ADAM VS THE MAN with Adam Kokesh: Thank you, thank you, thank you. According to Metro spokesman Dan Stessel as quoted in the

May 31st - 12:50pm | Anonymous

This is a sad day when you can be assaulted and detained for dancing in a memorial built to honor one of the greatest advocates of liberty and free expression the world has witnessed. Those those who think this police action is justified: Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

May 31st - 12:49pm | Lee Dalton

How about some background info on Adam vs The Man?  This sounds a lot like the so-called free speech movement of the 60's.  What are they protesting?  What's their reason for this?

May 31st - 12:25pm | A non-eMouse

Allow me to put some perspective on this: If you protest the arrest of someone caught shoplifting (a victimless crime!) by shoplifting - guess what's gonna happen? If you want to demostrate on public lands, you'se gonna need a permit. As McCoy said: "How can you get a permit to do a dam illegal thing?"

May 31st - 11:36am | Davey J

I have no opinion about the legitimacy of the law, but I feel that as they were warned and continued then they deserve to be arrested. The resisting of arrest ruined any point they were making. If they would have quietly allowed themselves to be arrested then it would have gone a lot farther for me that they were trying to make a point.

May 31st - 09:52am | Carol B

I'm in stunned silence! Why have we become a police state?

May 31st - 09:51am | RAD

These individuals came only to cause trouble and draw attention to themselves. The fact that the leader has a website only shows that. If I was a visitor to the Memorial I would not want this activity of dancing and kissing going on before me. The individuals were warned and they just wanted to provoke an incident.

May 31st - 09:19am | Jo Schaper

Jefferson? A Virginia gentleman with an eye for the ladies? Against dancing? Please.   "A Puritan lives in constant fear that someone, somewhere, may be having a good time."

National Park Quiz 95: National Seashores

Jun 2nd - 08:36am | Bob Janiskee

Since questions 3 and 8 have been replaced, thanks to RoadRanger's feedback, some additional explanantion is needed here. The original questions dealt with being able to access national seashores via hard-surfaced roads, and whether hard surfaced roads exist within certain parks.

Jun 2nd - 00:55am | RoadRanger

Bob, regarding Questions 3 and 8: For certain, there are no paved roads on Shackleford and Core Banks at Cape Lookout, but I believe you will find a hard-surfaced entrance road and at least one paved parking lot at the Harkers Island Unit (Visitor Center). That unit is within the park boundary.

Jun 1st - 08:07am | Vagobond

The national parks and wildlife system in the USA is one of the things I miss the most. Having not been home in about three years, I think of the wildlife, seabirds, and landscape...there really is no place else like it. Well, except Canada.

Bison Hazing Could Snarl Traffic in Yellowstone National Park This Week

Jun 1st - 21:41pm | C.C.

This hazing is abusive to the bison and needs to be stopped.  Some of those babies are only days old and are hazed for miles back into the park.  One baby has already been hazed to death earlier in May.  Maybe if visitors see this abuse, more people will realize our tax dollars are being used to abuse animals.

Jun 1st - 18:55pm | Bruce

Call me a tenderfoot, but I was relieved to learn that "bison hazing" has nothing in common with "fraternity hazing."  Controversial or not, no bison are intentionally harrassed, abused, or humiliated in this operation.  ;-)

Bird Nests and Closures Spurring Civil Disobedience at Cape Hatteras National Seashore

Jun 1st - 13:56pm | Ron Saunders

To Recent Visitor Lee, I am sorry you did not enjoy your day on the beach at the Outer Banks. Believe me when I say this because I am sincere. It can be a wonderful experience. I would ask that you keep an open mind.

Jun 1st - 07:31am | Lee Dalton

Here's a perfect example of the kinds of opposing tensions that make management of park areas so very difficult.

Jun 1st - 06:47am | samsdad1

Lee I guess when you attend Yellowstone and park amongst the thousands of cars and walk on the thousands of feet of manmade boardwalk you feel this is how it is doen protecting wildlife and our children?

May 31st - 20:11pm | Lee

This is a NATIONAL PARK. It is our duty to protect wildlife. If the beaches have to be closed for short period of time, so be it. Having just visited the Avon-Hatteras-Ocracoke area for the first time I was appauled to see vehicles on the beaches. It's not only an eye sore, it's noisy and smelly.

Woman Dies in Fall From Angel's Landing

Jun 1st - 13:27pm | Kegtoter

While this string of comments is getting stale, I'm contributing to it because the subject is still fresh and will likely be continually debated for years to come.  I also think my unique experience brings a different insight.  I am not only an expert hiker, but also an expert mountain climber, skier, and though not an expert at rock climbing, have done multiple pitches in the 5.10 area, includ

Backcountry Hiker With A Growing Reputation For Being Overdue Rescued In Glacier National Park

May 31st - 19:29pm | ecbuck

I like your conclusion (the thought to charge to rescue ) but your premise is entirely off base.  "Military budgets and wars" are a minor contributor to our debtor status.  We are "selling off our country" because the powers that be are blocking efficient domestic devlopment and I don't know of any "Tea Party Rebulicans" that place our parks as a low priority.

May 31st - 09:58am | Old Zion Ranger

While working backcountry at Grand Canyon in the mid-'80's I worked several "rescues" where the individuals were charged for the "rescue".  In those situations the individuals involved were uninjured and not lost, but had simply refused to continue on a route they had insisted on taking, even after being advised of the difficulties of their intended route by backcountry permit staff.  The permi

Should a Cesar Chavez Site be Added to the National Park System?

May 31st - 19:27pm | Sandi

No they should not have anything more to do with Cesar Chavez,  I lived in bakersfield and he was not the Saint everyone is making him out to be.  He used to chase kids off with a gun, and he was mean and had a potty mouth.  he was not a likable nice man and he does not deserve anything else.  he has enough already.  For God's sake this is our National Parks.

A Tale of Two Joshua Trees

May 31st - 18:10pm | Amy Ivy

Joshua Tree is one of our favorite places to camp, picnic, and play.  Our three kids can spend days just scrambling around on rocks.  For anyone with a high-clearance 4wd and a sense of adventure, I recommend driving from Dillon Road in Indio up through Berdoo Canyon to the park.  We went just yesterday and Berdoo Canyon and adjoining Geology Tour Road were exploding with wildflowers! 

May 31st - 10:58am | justinh

Nice article.  It's hard to wander through Joshua trees and not wonder about their personalities.

Dinosaur National Monument Officials Warning Floaters To Beware High Flows On Yampa River

May 31st - 12:37pm | Kurt Repanshek

Dean, here's an update from the park: [color=#8b0000][/color]

May 31st - 12:32pm | dean paschall

Jackie We have a June 10th put in and I am a little concerned now.  Did you get any useful information to you comment?  Did you go?  What information do you have to share? Dean

National Park Road Trip 2011: Kings Canyon National Park

May 31st - 11:53am | Anonymous

I like reading the stories here but I have I suggestion. As not everyone knows where all these parks are it would be a big help in case we would like to visit them. Thanks

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