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  • Study: Loss Of Colorado River Would Cripple Economies Of Seven States, From Wyoming To California   1 week 4 days ago

    Does anyone know if all the recent rain in that area did anything for Lake Mead?? Did it rise at all?

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 4 days ago

    Thank you for seeing my point. Where do we draw the line and who says? Abstract words like liberal, conservative, and socialism mean whatever until made concrete with definition. Hitler was a National Socialist and he could be described as a liberal who believed in making the world a more just place through selective culling and breeding of humans. Modern liberals also believe in selective culling and breeding humans as a way to make the world a more just place. They call it population control and use birth control and abortion to selectively cull and breed..

  • National Parks Will Be Focus Of 2016 Rose Bowl Parade   1 week 4 days ago

    Are you asking about the Rose Parade in general? Or costs to the National Parks for having a presence in the Rose Parade? Most of the costs of the Rose Parade are underwritten by corporate sponsors (especially Honda, since 2011). If there are any costs to NPS, I imagine they would come out of their existing budget, rather than new expenditures, which would require congressional approval.

    Typically, this event brings about a million people to the Pasadena area, resulting in a major stimulus to the local economy. In addition, it's one of the most watched events on television (and online), which brings in a lot of advertising revenue for broadcasters. I don't have hard data, but I think it's a net gain for taxpayers.

  • National Parks Will Be Focus Of 2016 Rose Bowl Parade   1 week 4 days ago

    Do you know if there's any specific plans to acknowledge the new San Gabriel National Mounment, right in the Rose Bowl's backyard? I'll be disappointed if they overlook this obvious connection....

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 4 days ago

    Please?

    "What's the topic?" --- "I dunno - let's piddle our pants in our usual manner".

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 4 days ago

    Whipperin1, I am neither smart enough or informed enough, perhaps I should not respond at all, but "where do we draw the line" is a good question. Should we protect humans from the plague's, ebola, etc, yet claim we are going to allow natural processes to prevail. There is an interesting book, "Liberalism, The Life of an Idea" by Edmond Fawcett. Fawcett states "what distinguished them (liberals), from conservatives was their belief that progress towards a more just world was possible: what distinguished them from socialists was their belief that they would never get there. The aim of liberalism was to manage conflict, while still treating people with civil respect---a catchall phrase for various kinds of legal and political equality owed to citizens of liberal societies". I found the book review difficult, but it raised many of the points discussed on this listserve. The pragmatic attempt to reconcile these issues, endangered species, climate change, pesticide use, industrial pollution, etc. is a daunting task, but I do see your point.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 4 days ago

    Perhaps we could get this discussion back on the topic of the story, which was "How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?"

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 4 days ago

    Buxton, you know that most of the problems at CHNSRA are the never ending meddling by national groups like SELC, NPCA, Audubon, DoW, Sierra Club and other dishonest extremist organizations. They have used propaganda based on misinformation and half truths. The facts are the facts and you can't wish away that the NPS used junk science to base the new the management plan. You can't pretend the closure of Hatteras Village beaches for decades was not due to some back door dealings.

    I am not part of any orginazation and your decitful aqusations are expected from you and your ambulance chasing organizations. My goal is to return the national seashore recreational area back to it's intended purpose.

    If the NPS can't wise up, be honest, and use common sense then yes I would like to see some other entity manage the seashore. Since this a national problem, I would rather see the NPS restore balance between preservation and recreation, like it was.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 4 days ago

    Beachdumb,

    Give CHNS a rest.

    A good part of the problems here are never ending meddling by local ORV groups that will stop at nothing to gain liberal beach driving regulations. This involves going after individual NPS mangers and employees in dirty underhanded ways. It is a pastime to spread a continuing non stop triade about bad science, fictitious back door dealings, personal agendas, and all manner of made up scenarios about NPS employees. This is acomplished by ORV/fishing organizations with organize campaigns and a non stop tirade on numerous message boards by members spreading hearsay about anything the NPS does.

    You and your compatriots goal is to tear down a national seashore in the hopes of making it an ORV park, preferably run by Dare county or NC.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    An interesting case, not having all the facts involved here, it is difficult to comment, but generally, when on official duty, you need to keep your comments in line with the unit/agency policy, unless you are being asked to spin/participate in an unlawful or unsafe action. We run into this issue both in Fire and Law Enforcement, often times what we see or hear through the rumor mill, locals, visitors, has not been verified, the employee needs to question, but be prudent in repeating second hand information. In this case, where there are allegations that the employee is being muzzled because of a supervisor was not taking the corrective actions, well, that is a concern. It would be interesting , if anyone has more facts, to see them posted. I do think PEER is a very reputable organization, their comments always merit consideration.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    What has happened since then?

    A lot more of the same and nothing has changed. It's the good ole boy network. We've seen in at CHNSRA as well, just not exposed.

  • National Parks Will Be Focus Of 2016 Rose Bowl Parade   1 week 5 days ago

    I can't find any information on how much the taxpayers of Pasadena, CA pay for police services, etc on parade day. I don't believe that this will cost the Federal government anything. The floats are built and decorated by non-government organizations (often corporations)from what I understand.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    That was 13 years ago. What has happened since then?

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    Thank you for posting. It's not surprising.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago
    Yellowstone Park ranger fired for talking about poachers in the park,norton does nothing

    Post by votegreen=votebu » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:59:57

    http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=17119

    Senator says Park Service is retaliating against outspoken ranger

    By The Associated Press

    10.16.02

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    A U.S. senator is demanding an explanation from the National Park Service for why it cut short the season of a Yellowstone National Park ranger who earlier was ordered to stop speaking out about unscrupulous hunters.

    Meanwhile, a Park Service spokesman says the agency will clarify a memo to employees that critics have charged was a violation of the First Amendment right to free speech.

    Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said sending Yellowstone ranger Bob Jackson home early smacks of further retaliation and violates the spirit of a settlement the agency reached with him late last year.

    Jackson, a 30-year park veteran, patrols a remote area of Yellowstone near the park's southeast corner. His expertise is catching poachers, and he has long criticized hunting guides he says illegally lure elk from Yellowstone by placing salt outside park boundaries on Forest Service land in Montana.

    In 2001, Jackson, who lives in Promise City, Iowa, in Wayne County, said park management ordered him not to speak publicly about his concerns and sent him home from his job early, telling him he would not be hired back the next season.

    Jackson filed a complaint and, under an agreement reached in December 2001, was rehired for the 2002 season to patrol the same area of the park.

    However, he said the agency asked him to leave Sept. 17, long before hunting season outside the park heats up. That was extended a couple of weeks, but only after the Washington, D.C.-based watchdog group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility complained to the agency, he said.

    Still, he is being asked to leave much earlier than normal, Jackson contends.

    "This is a thing that is bigger than me," he said. "It has do with a lot of the status quo with the National Park Service."

    Rick Frost, a spokesman for the Park Service's regional office in Denver, said Grassley and Fran Mainella, the agency's director, had corresponded about Jackson. But Frost said he did not know the extent of the discussions and could not immediately comment.

    In a letter to Interior Secretary Gale Norton, who oversees the agency, Grassley said it appears the Park Service is still trying to punish Jackson for speaking out.

    "When someone like him speaks up about unethical practices and gets sidelined and shut out, then there are a lot of questions for the National Park Service to answer," Grassley said in a statement. "I'm intent on stopping this kind of intimidation so other government workers who are willing to speak up about problems are not deterred."

    Grassley accused the Park Service of lax enforcement to prevent poaching and of retaliating against Jackson for his outspoken criticism.

    "Getting rid of Mr. Jackson serves the interests of park supervisory officials who wish to avoid high-profile conflicts with poachers and negative attention," Grassley wrote to Norton. "Mr. Jackson has proved himself to have unique skills and knowledge of the backcountry area where poaching is known to take place."

    Jackson said the Park Service has purposely staffed the backcountry with a small number of rangers with little experience.

    "The park needed more enforcement coverage, not less like they have now," Jackson said. "There was no intention there to have fall hunting control."

    Meanwhile, Frost, spokesman for the Intermountain Region of the Park Service, said a Sept. 16 memo to employees was meant to convey that employees have an ethical responsibility when speaking about their work and not meant to muzzle free speech.

    The memo prompted some Park Service employees to contact Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.

    Executive Director Jeff Ruch said three people approached his group "because they all thought this memo was about them."

    The memo read, in part, "Employees who are writing or speaking on a topic which is generally related to their work, who are expressing themselves as private citizens and not as representatives of the department, are communicating under the concept of nonofficial expression."

    The memo said employees must apply for and receive a "certificate of compliance" to publish nonofficial expression.

    "The problem with the directive is it's unconstitutional, illegal and fairly dumb to boot," Ruch said. "It appears to say if you speak about your job, even on your own time, you must get some sort of approval."

    Ruch's organization complained to Mainella, the Park Service's director, in its own letter that the memo does not specify what is required for the certificate or what standards will be applied.

    The group also said employee speech is protected by the First Amendment "so long as it does not impair the efficient functioning of the public agency."

    Frost said the Park Service was concerned about employees' use of company time and equipment.

    "We're not worried about the content of speech but their ethical obligations as a civil servant," he said. "We have to make sure we're not using those taxpayer-funded resources for our private endeavors."

    He said employees cannot use government time, equipment or their title to speak or write to other groups or talk about information "that is not available to the general public."

    Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, he said, "thinks this is muzzling free speech and it isn't."

    He said the memo would be clarified.

    The Park Service's Intermountain Region includes Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and Montana.

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  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    Yes, highlight real rangers like Robert Danno that are out there working in the field to help the visitors enjoy the Parks.

  • How Do You Think The National Park Service Should Celebrate Its Centennial?   1 week 5 days ago

    Highlight the people of the National Parks -

    The rangers, volunteers and park partners. The resources are interesting but it's the people who make the experience for the visitor.

    Danny Bernstein

    www.hikertohiker.com

  • National Parks Will Be Focus Of 2016 Rose Bowl Parade   1 week 5 days ago

    How much is that gonna cost taxpayers?

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 5 days ago

    I am seriously trying to understand how anyone can think that humans should try to control evolution. Hitler attempted to take control of human evolution by selectively breeding and culling humans. It seems like there is always a new master race crowd like the Nazis that think it's their job to save the planet.

  • Study: Loss Of Colorado River Would Cripple Economies Of Seven States, From Wyoming To California   1 week 5 days ago

    An article in today's Las Vegas Sun asks, "When Will Las Vegas Run Out of Water?" Even if the worst case predictions are wrong, as another recent story points out, Lake Mead doesn't have to dry up entirely to create major economic problems for not only S. Nevada, but parts of Arizona and S. California as well.

    This article from NOAA notes that on July 11, 2014, Lake Mead "reached its lowest water level since the lake was first filled during the construction of the Hoover Dam in the 1930s."

    "Runoff in the Upper Colorado River Basin was 94 percent of average in 2014... but only 47 percent of normal in 2013 and 45 percent in 2012, according to the Bureau of Reclamation."

    The 2014 National Climate Assessment "also warns that the current drought could be just beginning. Southwest paleoclimate records show that severe mega-droughts at least 50 years long have occurred in the past several thousand years."

    No one can accurately predict what the snowpack in parts of Colorado and Utah (the major source of Colorado River water) will be in coming years, but if the trends for the past 15 years continue, there's cause for serious concern.

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 5 days ago

    the false belief that humans may actually have the right to destroy our world.

    And tell us Lee - who believes that? Noone of course but you have to create this straw boogie men so you have something to attack

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 5 days ago

    I think I follow you, Lee (and likely agree). Superiority would be a greater ability to rearrange our environment (i.e. a greater technological capacity)? The question of "rights" and "belief" would then seem to be a question of morality, independent of superiority. Interesting thoughts, Lee.

    (I just noticed your addendum. "Reasoned thought" might be tricky to define--or, at least, the boundary between that and (other) forms of "animal cognition" might not be so discrete. In any case, I see your point.)

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 5 days ago

    As far as we know, humans are only species capable of reasoned thought.

    I decry the false belief that humans may actually have the right to destroy our world. We certainly have the ability, but some of us believe that does not give us the right to do it. It frightens me to see so many who seem to feel that personal gratification and profit now outweigh any moral responsibility to be good stewards of the planet with an eye constantly toward the future welfare of all our fellow travelers on what someone once called "Spaceship Earth."

  • Study: Loss Of Colorado River Would Cripple Economies Of Seven States, From Wyoming To California   1 week 5 days ago

    In the 1800's it was widely believed that "Rain follows the plow." Now we seem to believe that "Rain follows more and more development."

    Will we ever learn that the truth that drives all this is simple. It's an unshakable belief that Dollars follow more and more development. But what about the future?

    Some among us care not for the future because it might limit a few of the dollars in our pockets.

    It's simply wisdom vs greed.

  • Groups File Intent To Sue Over Grizzly Bear Deaths In Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem   1 week 5 days ago

    Lee,

    How are you defining "superiority"? According to what criteria?