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  • Errant Boater Hits Bridge, Forcing Closure of a Section of the Colonial Parkway   5 years 20 weeks ago

    How big a boat are we talking? I would imagine it would have to be rather significant in size.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    This reply is sad. What is the purpose of laws if there are no consequences to breaking them? Also, did you consider those who took their vacation to go to Mt Rushmore and on the day they were there got a Greenpeace banner? Had that been the day I visited, I would have been very angry! Instead of focusing on the costs to feed, guard, and collect, maybe you should ask why it costs so much and is so hard to collect from criminals. And "thank them" for revealing potential security issues? Should we thank those who rob convenience stores but don't actually hurt anyone? Or maybe we thank the guy takes a gun into a school, but doesn't actually shoot anyone? If we really had tough laws and tough courts, perhaps we wouldn't need as much security, but if we go with your approach we will need ever increasing amounts of security.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Let's put this into perspective: The very first activities of Greenpeace were directed against US and French open-air nuclear weapons tests. Those tests contaminated vast proportions of the Pacific Ocean and can still be easily detected in every little amount of air all over the world, because since the early 1960 there are radioactive isotopes in the atmosphere that do not belong there. To protest they sailed into the closed zone around the Pacific islands, played cat and mouse with the Navy and did everything to delay the tests. One of their earliest activists, the owner of the yacht "Vega" was aptly named David (McTaggert) and that is their That was of course illegal, the waters around the islands were closed by law, the Navy was there to stop trespassers.

    Do you believe it was appropriate to break the law back then to protest against open-air nuclear weapons testing?

  • Triple-Digit Temps, Cool, Swift Waters Led to Drownings at Sequoia National Park   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Very sad to hear about the two girls. Many people are not aware of the extent of danger a fast flowing river provides. Even the strongest swimmers can be trapped by currents and obstructions. River Rovers are performing a great service.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Until the land is returned to its rightful owners, yes, anarchy, which is not chaos, as some people paint it, but simply lack of government. [See definition number 3.] See also Monopoly on the "legitimate" use of physical force.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Frank;

    So in your line of thinking because of the legal argument about who owns the Black Hills including of course Rushmore then federal laws should not be enforced...anarchy prevails...enter at you own risk? I honour your beliefs but am thankful they aren't reality as far as present day law keeping goes.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    John,

    Say I settle a dispute with you. You relinquish your house to me but keep your car. You agree to this, even though it could be argued you are under duress or coercion. You sign your name on a legally binding agreement.

    But then a month later, I find out your car is worth a lot of money. The original agreement allowed you to keep your car, but I decide I want that, too. So I carjack you, forcing you out of your car at gunpoint. I have no legal claim to your car; the dispute has legally been settled. But I drive off with your car, which I have stolen by force.

    Then say someone vandalizes my car. If I go to the police, I cannot prosecute the vandal because I do not legally own the car. They would just give it back to its rightful owner.

    That is unless I own the police, too. Then you could sue me for the car. But I own own the courts, too, and you're screwed.

    The whole system is based on theft and lies and coercion, and any new "rules" made regarding the property (your car in this case) are null and void but enforced through a corrupt system.

    (I'll spell it out: Since the federal government does not legally own the Black Hills (your car), they have no claim against GreenPeace for damages nor do they have the legal right to establish laws regarding said property.)

    And that's your federal government.

    PERIOD.

    (P.S., yeah, I hate the CAPTCHA, but as a former blogger, I understand how frustrating spam can be.)

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Frank;
    All points well taken. However unless Greenpeace is a Sioux Nation organization or somehow affiliated with another Native American entity, I fail to see why the law should not be enforced in regards to Greenpeace's actions at Rushmore. I guess what I am asking in light of the facts you have put forth, facts that I certainly agree with, what is your take on what should happen to the Greenpeace members who were arrested?

    BTW...I hate this frakkin captcha system!

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    John,

    Your summary of my argument is close, but my argument is not a red herring. The rightful owners (the Sioux) only have the right to prosecute. The federal government broke its own laws and stole the land; the government signed a LEGALLY binding treaty with a foreign nation that allowed the Lakota Sioux to keep the Black Hills:

    "...but the United States would continue its battle against the Sioux in the Black Hills until the government confiscated the land in 1877. To this day, ownership of the Black Hills remains the subject of a legal dispute between the U.S. government and the Sioux. (Emphasis added.) US Government source here.

    The Federal Government's claim to the Black Hills is legally illegitimate and nothing else is relevant (including Kurt's true red herring).

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Frank;

    For what it's worth I happen to agree with you statement "the long federal screwing of the aboriginal inhabitants". I am trying to understand what that has to do with the original story about Greenpeace. Are you saying that because Rushmore came into being and therefore breaking the treaty then Greenpeace was somehow justified in their actions because the current laws as they are should be null and void...ignorable by any who wish to? To me these are very different discussions and the "screwing of the Native American (which I agree with you on) is a red herring to the original discussion.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Frank and Kevin, this is not to condone 19th century U.S. conquest in the West, but does your disdain for the way Anglo-Americans treated Native Americans also apply to how Native Americans treated others?

    The Lakota (Sioux), living on the North Central Plains, considered all Indians that did not belong to the Lakota people, lakholkichiyapi (alliance) to be enemies, thoka. The Lakotas were at constant war against neighboring tribes like the Pawnee, Crow and Arikara. Truce was only sought for the purposes of trade, and lasted usually only for a short time. -- Rani-Henrik Andersson, Ph.D. University of Helsinki/Renvall Institute/North American Studies Program

  • "River Runners for Wilderness" Lose Bid to See Motorized Rafts, Helicopters Banned from Colorado River Corridor in Grand Canyon   5 years 20 weeks ago

    River Running (floating) is entirely dependant upon the motorized world! An aluminum boat brought on an aluminum trailer behind a steel truck over a rock highway, full of frozen meat brought here a week before the turkey's flight from Boston, then shuttled however many miles again....the again...
    And it is all worth it! Imagine 8 months of no engines in your hometown. I'd say Grand Canyon is doing just fine.
    Ride a bicycle and we'll talk.
    Moab

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Frank C.,
    Excellent post. Rushmore itself is an abomination. The mountain was beautiful before it was carved into the shape of faces. People are way off base claiming response people were put in jeopardy. The Greenpeace people used the bolts which were already on the mountain (i.e. the govt damaged the mountain by putting the bolts in themselves). Outrage is good, just make it something worth being outraged about. Ask native Americans in the area how outraged they are. They can tell you stories that will make you cringe. Ask park rangers about maintenance projects which are on hold for lack of funding. The money we waste on Rushmore could be put to so much better use.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Summer (and are you THE Summer from Firefly or just a poser?),

    If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    For instance, RangerLady, where's your outrage that these presidents' faces were carved into sacred Sioux stone that legally, by the binding Treaty of 1868, belongs to the Sioux?

    If you have respect for the law, you must reject the State's illegitimate claims to Mount Rushmore and recognize that any laws imposed on this parcel are therefore null and void.

    Has no one in this country studied Native American history and learned of the long federal screwing of the aboriginal inhabitants?

  • Trekking to Dick Proenneke's Cabin in Lake Clark National Park   5 years 20 weeks ago

    When I want to be alone. Nobody, but me and the Lord, I often just put my DVD of Alone in the Wilderness in, and watch it for a while. I takes me to Alaska Bush Country, and Twin Lakes. I build a cabin by watching the Master Craftsman Richard Pronekke. He was a genius!! There is no doubt about that. What a man.

    He really had it all figured out, for the most part. Just do what you were born to do. Dream and then DO IT!!!

    Dick

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Lay off RangerLady. This is a forum, not her performance review....

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Usually RangerLady has some intelligent remarks, but this last comment requires a little more explanation than just "devil's advocate", being as she is, I presume, a Seasonal Ranger. I certainly hope while on duty, she performs the way the National Park Service expects her to perform, and not make decisions on her own. If the group had protested on the grounds of the monument, that is one thing; climbing the actual monument is another. To relate, people protest all the time in Washington DC; they don't actually climb up in Lincoln's lap, or climb up outside of the Washington Monument. At the very least, it is just plain disrespectful, if nothing else.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    These people are Eco-Terrorists! They put the response team in harms way! If one of the "rescuers" had died ,well the charges would have been different! If they could enforce there view on us they would because there right and the rest of us are wrong! They should be prosecuted and if convicted given the max! I have no tolerance for these people who want to change the world by acting out! You want to make a difference become a teacher or a scientist!

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    RangerLady If its no big deal does that mean we can go out break the law as long as you feel no one is being harmed. I guess if someone had gotten hurt getting these Morons down its ok because two of the four Presidents gave them the right to demonstrate even if its breaking the law and endangers others! The reason the NPS was practicing live saving techiques is to save idiots like these from harming themselfs and others! By the way you wouldnt happen to belong to Green Peace you sure sound like one of them!

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    I'm going to play Devil's advocate on this one and wonder what the big deal is. I can see why they chose Mt. Rushmore because these were great presidents. They demonstrated on a monument dedicated to the men (well 2 out of 4) that help give us the freedom to demonstrate and voice our opinion. Yes it was against the law and I have the utmost respect for the law (ok...I speed a wee bit) but I don't think it's as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

    And honestly I don't think this is as damaging as some of the things the NPS does to the monument. Just 2 months before this they were practicing search and rescue techniques off of Jefferson's forehead. I honestly think that people rappling up and down the monument with ropes and a litter is much more damaging than a sign.

    Ranger Holly
    http://web.me.com/hollyberry

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Wow...Just amazing logic! How about the damage that was potential to themselves, the environment, responding police personnel and NPS people as well as blatant disregard for the law and the reasons for the law. Arrogance like this deserves the MAX penalty!

  • Shenandoah National Park Ranger Roy Sullivan Set the World Record for Being Hit by Lightning   5 years 20 weeks ago

    thats interesting i remeber my science teacher once told me about him its sad that after 7 stirkes he killed himself over a girl......

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    What will be accomplished by prosecuting people who did not damage anything? If we send them to prison, we pay to feed, guard and entertain them. If we fine them, we will probably spend more money trying to collect it than we actually collect.
    We should actually thank them. They provided a service to the country by showing how lax our security is. Of course, in a real national park, security is not that big an issue. Rushmore, being a park visited by people who eat ice cream a bucket at a time, probably needs more security than others. That being the case, security failed and we are fortunate to get a wake up call without any damage being done.

  • Gateway National Recreation Area Seeks Solutions to Weekend Traffic Snarls at Sandy Hook   5 years 20 weeks ago

    My husband and I were among those unfortunate souls who were trying to leave Sandy Hook Sunday, July 20th. It was absolutely ridiculous. The only warning is a small sign saying to expect "heavy" traffic. Living in the metropolitan area, we are used to "heavy" traffic. This was not heavy--it was stopped dead, crawl along a few feet, then stop again. For three hours, like you said.

    We had gone on a tour of the old Nike missile site, a rare open house scheduled from 3-8pm. If the park service is telling people to come early and leave early, why do they hold events in the afternoon and evening? And their suggestion to use public transportation? Yeah, right. The only thing worse than being stuck in your own car is being stuck on a bus.

    This is poor, poor planning by NPS and NJ DOT, although I wouldn't be surprised, knowing how NJ works, if the NPS probably had little say in the matter. The people who live in the area didn't get much of a voice either.

  • Greenpeace Activists Face Slew of Charges For Their Stunt At Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 20 weeks ago

    Throw the book at these clowns