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  • Vietnam Veterans Memorial Vandalized   5 years 35 weeks ago

    This in inexorably sad.

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Yes, we are the best "dam" country. So many dams on our rivers...

    On a related note to the story, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The statue isn't the problem; the problem is too many visitors.

  • Vietnam Veterans Memorial Vandalized   5 years 35 weeks ago

    I guess I really don't understand what would motivate someone to do this. It's an odd act of vandalism.

    The beauty of the Vietnam war memorial is that it touches deeply to the core of every visitor, regardless of their political affiliation or their feelings about the war. I've seen stanch supporters of the Vietnam war weep at the bold listing of each name and I've seen Vietnam protestors weep at the austerity and anguish the wall represents.

    It seems to me a grave unfortunate act of vandalism and I hope for future generations (and for the sake of those the memorial honors and their families) that the Park Service can find the means of mitigating the damage.

  • Hidden Hall of Records at Mount Rushmore   5 years 35 weeks ago

    When I first visited Mt. Rushmore in 1975, the video shown to visitors at the park included a segment about the "Hall of Records" and the original intent of its creator, Gutzon Borglum. As I recall (now more than 30 years later), Gutzon wanted to make this a grand and glorious hall housing all of the original key documents of this country (i.e., the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, the U.S. Constitution) where people could view them.

    Some 20 years later, when I visited Mt. Rushmore with my family, I was surprised to see that the National Park Service had removed the segment of the video talking about the "Hall of Records".

    I'm certain that the new movie, National Treasure, will stir up renewed interest in the hall and its creator.

    JP - Thousand Oaks, CA

  • Vietnam Veterans Memorial Vandalized   5 years 35 weeks ago

    I agree SOME ONE like this shouldn't be allowed to walk FREE in a FREE country.. HOW LOW can an human animal go!!!

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    You all have good points! I believe She needs to be removed and clean and put up in Front of The old Twin Tower's {she would then be finnish bout the time the NEW TOWER WAS Finish}.

    And low maintances from there on a Newer Copy, the outside made of Sun reastence Heavy greaded Plastic, A non-rusting Steel interal with all or more bells and whistel. Elevator access addition of fire escape routes and emergency.

    It woulg be lower maintance in the long run.

    Were're Still the Best DAM Country To Live In!
    They may hate us for being Human and want to destroy our ways, But you no and no there the 1st inline to get here.

  • Vietnam Veterans Memorial Vandalized   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Jeremy, this is absolutely pathetic that one can stoop so low to create such an grievous act of horrendous vandalism. If the perpetrators of this sick act of vandalism are caught, may justice be swift to the fullest extent of the law...and SEVER...and I mean SEVER!!

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Yep -- too much "do" and what have ya got?

    Doodoo...

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Jon, okay, but St. Louis should be one of those places? (Isn't one Kansas City enough? JUST KIDDING!)

    Jim Macdonald
    The Magic of Yellowstone
    Yellowstone Newspaper
    Jim's Eclectic World

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    We need more places where there's "little to do"...

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    The Statue is really not very large. I remember fondly several lunch breaks from my days as a trainer -- munching on a reuben from the Stage Door Deli, sitting at the top of the World Trade Center, staring off to the south, amazed at how small the Statue of Liberty really was in the scheme of things. When you're young, it's outrageously huge. When you see it again as an adult years later, you're amazed at how small it really is -- like Mount Rushmore -- you expect it to loom so much larger because of the thing it's come to represent -- which is far bigger than any statue any human can ever build.

    Leave it alone. Have people sign the waiver. Limit the access to those able to make the climb. No food. No backpacks. Bring your own water. Simple.

    It was closed for a big chunk of the early 80s when they were giving it a face lift for its centennial. It's been closed a lot during my adult years -- way too often.

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    P.S. You're kidding that nobody had the foresight to consider an elevator, right?

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    You nailed it Jeremy. The inscription that I was referring to, that is. I agree that a permanent closing, for whatever well intended (or misguided) reason, would be viewed in the court of world opinion as caving in to some ridiculous foreign agenda, not as an introspective study in American morals gone wrong or any other reason that might be proposed, even the old "for public safety during the renovation process", no matter how true the later might actually be. And I agree that closing the barn door after the horse is gone is pointless, even if leaving the door open is more pointless. Solutions? I don't believe that this is a black and white issue, and with every muted gray-scale comes it's own set of interesting considerations. Safety for climbers? It never was before, but in this sue-happy society, can it afford to be left in it's present condition? Addition of fire escape routes and emergency access (panels or otherwise)? I seriously doubt it that can be accomplished while not compromising the intergrity of the structure, externally speaking. Elevator access is in my view a tremendous waste of funding, and I personally would rather have a coronary on the stairwell than be stranded in mid-stream during on of NYC's famous brown-outs. Open for all at any time......too dangerous. Closed permanently.....too un-American. Talk about your no-win situation!

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Daniel,
    Well said. I was confused about the details of the park's history and rushed to judgment. In the future, I will write about that which I have more in depth knowledge.

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Lone Hiker - you are indeed stirring the pot! Here is the poem you make reference to (I think), engraved on a plaque found on Liberty's pedestal:

    The New Colossus
    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
    Emma Lazarus, 1883

    Yes, the statue is a gift from the French, but it looks like Lazarus was born in New York City.

    I find the Statue of Liberty inspiring. I wouldn't agree that she stands for a lost ideal. Perhaps she stands for an ideal that has yet to be achieved. At some point in the past, it was probably a mistake to open up the interior of Statue for public tours. As has been said by the Park Service, Bartholdi never intended for it to serve such purpose. But, you can't put toothpaste back in the tube; what's done is done. By denying access now, the impression is she's been shut down in the face of terrorism. The ideals she stands for, feel a bit muted today without that access restored.

  • How Would YOU Fix the Statue of Liberty?   5 years 35 weeks ago

    I'll render an opinion for the vast minority. I've never been much of a fan of super-sized artwork. At this point in our nation's history, super-sized is not very "PC", like anybody cares. The statue represents a lost ideal from our nation's glorious beginnings. "Liberty and justice for ALL", is how the statement reads I believe. Yet look around and it should be obvious that this notion is hardly the case in the modern era. Maybe now more so than ever this noble goal is a just and worthy pursuit, or more accurately a goal to reattain as a society, especially if we insist on functioning as the world's policeman. Lady Liberty, in my estimation, would be embarrassed and appalled by the perverted turn of events from a nation whose founding ideology has since been so corrupted so as to place us annually at or near the top of the world's list for human rights violations (independent international study data available upon request). In the interim, until such time as we can justify the inscription that the French, of all people, bestowed upon our country, shut the damn thing down. Avoid adding to the hypocracy that reflects so poorly on our current and well-deserved status in the world community. Throw a tarp over it until such time as we, as a nation, can hold our heads high, proclaiming and standing under scrutiny from any source, we are INDEED the foremost leader in personal liberty of ANY nation, under God, indivisible with...............".
    How's that for stirring up the pot?

  • Arches and Canyonlands In the Fall: Rock Architecture and Dwindling Crowds   5 years 35 weeks ago

    I'm glad to see you give these parks their due Kurt. By far, two of the most beautiful and least crowded of the national parks by any standard. Though neither is readily accessible without a bit of effort, this is, neither is near a "major" transportion hub, both parks reward the visitor with the quintessential NPS experience.....visual splendor, solitude, and unspoiled, unaltered glimpses into the history of the region, both geologically and anthropologically. While the hiking experiences at Arches are limited to say the least, the rewards greatly justify the minimal effort it takes even in the summer heat for the opportunity to view such awe-inspiring sites as Tower Arch, Double Arch, Fiery Furnace and the rest. The backcountry at Canyonlands is maybe the most remote, physically and mentally challenging region of the NPS umbrella, but the unique character of each section of the park may be the most rewarding experience one could have, provided you both enjoy and prepare for total isolation. While the Needles and Island in the Sky are indeed spectacular, the real challenge lies in negotiating the Maze district. The physical demands in this park are many, they needn't be as dangerous as a certain hiker, made famous by exploits printed in Reader's Digest and others, made them be by stretching one's limitations and eventually having to sever part of an arm to be freed from his foolishly man-made prison. To most thoroughly enjoy these areas is to leave the car behind and load up the pack, avoiding the temptation to make basecamp in "Sedona North" otherwise known as Moab, and make preparations for an extended outdoors stay, as most of the more worthwhile and pristine destinations aren't exactly a day-trip from the comfort of your B&B. But as with most things in life, the extra effort is greatly rewarded, knowing that few have ventured into this harsh environment even when temperatures allow for relative ease of off-season exploration.
    Almost exactly one year ago, I was fortunately enough to venture into these "barren" lands, and save for the handful of backpackers I encountered during the week, the feeling of having one of the most visually intimidating and desolate regions of the country almost to yourself was something you have to experience to appreciate. These are the true gems of the Utah national parks, though 2.5 million visitors annually to Zion would argue the point. While anything but lush, the east- central high desert retains a stark beauty and character all it's own. And the abundance of native influences found in the pre-Basketmaker relics, Anasazi era petroglyphs, ruins and readily accessible artifacts (don't even THINK about it) are in one of their highest undisturbed concentrations in the area, if you make the extra effort to look for them.

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Daniel, sounds like you've got a pretty close park service connection. Thanks very much for the additional input.

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Daniel, thanks for your enlightening remarks. I think you have shed some valuable light on the subject.

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    By all means, state your opinions about the whole matter, but please be careful that your information is factual.

    Sorry, but the land in question has nothing to do with some land-grab in 1984. What the local foundation proposes is taking control of part of the original park grounds which include the Gateway Arch and its surrounding green space designed by Eero Saarinen and renknown landscape architect Dan Kiley. The Mel Price issue involved 100 other acres across the Mississippi River in East St. Louis, which again, is not part of what's being proposed for development. Now, that would be the prime spot for redevelopment but it's already junked up with a boat-in-a-moat casino and a large part of it is occupied by private enterprise - something NPS doesn't control.

    A student of the administrative history of the site will also see that the locals petitioned vociferously for the federal government and National Park Service to develop Jefferson National Expansion Memorial in the heart of downtown St. Louis way back in the 1930's -- hardly an image of the federal government ignoring local needs and overstepping its bounds. If anything, it's the opposite. It was one of the first historic sites to come into the system, as I'm sure you know. As a unit of the National Park System since 1935 - this is not exactly a Johnny-come-lately park.

    An NPS turnstile for people trying to get permanent positions? Interesting. Well if you're talking about law enforcement jobs you're probably right. They go off for training and sometimes we never see them agan. Otherwise, every other division has a strong, solid and consistent core staff. Most people find long-term, fulfilling work at the park and aren't their just to punch their ticket toward permanent status. If that ever was true, it just doesn't stand true today. The park system's diversity is what makes it strong, in my opinion. Don't think it unimaginable that someone would actually enjoy working in an urban park.

    Onto the chiding of the feds for building underground... The underground visitor center and museum has always existing has always been high and dry ABOVE the flood plain. The place was dry even in the devastating flood of 1993 when rivers levels were at their highest in modern history. Ditto for the parking garage. Let's not pretend that these things were built by some irresponsible government agency.

    The proposal at hand is actually acknowledging that the feds did it right when they built the Arch grounds at its current elevation. Since everything else down on the riverfront floods (rivers do that) there is little opportunity for permanent development. It took the foundation 2 years and $2 million dollars to reach that very obvious conclusion. That doesn't mean that the only solution is to take the single most successful project downtown - which from its inception was a national park site - and pave it over in favor of the next best thing. The folks behind the proposal have turned the discussion from "the riverfront is a disgrace because there's nothing to do" to "who ever said we needed all that green space around the Arch anyway." Ripping out the heart of Jefferson National Expansion Memorial does nothing to address the original goal of improving the actual riverfront. They are painting JNEM as some collosal failure when in reality it's been so successful that the city fathers (and in this case it is the fathers) are no longer interested in their original goal of developing the area around it but instead want to pepper the grounds with development that thas nothing to do with the purpose of the park. One local talk show host can think of nothing better than having a beer garden on the grounds.

    Land grab? You bet.

    Now to the question "Why should you or anyone living thousand of miles away presume to dictate what the citizens of St. Louis should or shouldn't do in their own city?" Think about it...most gateway communities would relish the opportunity to get their hands on some park land. In doing so they fail to see this as killing the goose that lays the golden egg. If it can happen with the national park site in St. Louis, what's to prevent it from happening anywhere else? If I don't care what happens in St. Louis and the precedent this sets for the national park SYSTEM, then I have no grounds for opposing such a proposal when it comes to my own back yard.

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    While Chicago's lakefront is one of the best utilizations of any city's downtown shorelines in the nation, Millennium Park was designed more with an eye of regenerating "local" interest in the Grant Park area than as a major source of tourism. With their existing status as a major convention site and facilities including the Museum Campus, Buckingham Fountain, the Magnificent Mile, the upcomming Navy Pier Hotel andCasino, along with the Summer Festival series (Taste of Chicago, the Air and Water Show, Blues Fest, Venecian Night, etc.) Millennius Park was hardly a required improvement, just another in the long line of mayoral whims akin to the bulldosing and redevelopment of Meigs Field into a lakefront park. St. Louis on the other hand, still retains the economic and visual blight that is East St. Louis, IL. directly across the river from any upgrade to the area surrounding the Gateway Arch. That said, the city should be allowed to customize the district into whatever viable source of revenue generating development it sees fit, although many of the better ideas have been put into place elsewhere along the Great River. For instance, where St. Louis would most likely have been a better fit, the National Mississippi River Aquarium and Museum has already been established in Dubuque (?), and does quite a competent job of displaying the history of the peoples, aquatic life and of the river dating back thousands of years. And while a site in a major city might lend some credence to the "bigger and better" notion, the idea would lose some of its luster to the "its been done before" mindset. The appropriate national history museum, as stated above, simply won't be competently done out of reluctance for correlating this monument with the true starting point for the genocide of western exapnsion, a true double entndre if ever there was one. Hotels, McArch's (no wait, that's too perfect), tee-shirts-R-us and the like simply don't fill the void. A water park on the river front.....hum, who cares if it periodically floods? Might be a novel idea, a self-flooding water park! Or how about green space, akin to the original look of the area surrounding the monument. Green space bordered by freeway overpasses........never mind. The real shame is that just a stone's throw from the arch is a wonderful riverfront region, already equipped with the majority of "notions", real and otherwise, that have been bandied about for inclusion in the monument redevelopment. But given that this structure is indeed almost solely a tourist destination, catering to that crowd will be the most likely factor in the final decision making process. And since the revenue generated by any resculpturing of the district will benefit local interests, the burden for procurement and distribution of any funding associated with this project, and thereby the content of the actual design of the project, should be the responsibility of those in the greater St. Louis metropolitan area, not a directive from the national bureaucracy that is the NPS. Like they have black ink from which to draw as they see fit anyway. Yet I'm certain that Congressional lobbying at its finest will indeed win out, like it or not.

  • Arches and Canyonlands In the Fall: Rock Architecture and Dwindling Crowds   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Klondike Bluffs is a little visited but stunningly beautiful section of Arches. The hike to Tower Arch is worth all of the trudging one must do through the soft orange Jurassic sand. Climb a fin and take in the view of the La Sals off in the distance looking like the shimmering mirage that it is.

  • Arches and Canyonlands In the Fall: Rock Architecture and Dwindling Crowds   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Couldn't agree with you more Kurt. Ed Abbey knew what he was talking about when he said, "This is the most beautiful place on Earth."

    Another high-end option outside Moab is the Red Cliffs Lodge, about 14 miles up the Colorado River. Rooms/cabins right on the Colorado, and they have their own winery on site as well.

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    The whole don't build in a flood plain argument doesn't hold water. If humans didn't build where floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, drought, and other natural disasters occur, then humans wouldn't be able to build or live virtually anywhere on the planet. People are attracted to water, and it's not really others' business to say, "Tsk, tsk. All you people should move." It's just another red herring to divert from the real issue: Local people should have local control of their resources.

    Oh, and by the way, the feds already built a parking garage and an UNDERGROUND museum at the arch. Talk about waiting for a bailout from a flood...

  • St Louis Wants to Develop Land under Gateway Arch   5 years 35 weeks ago

    Of course, East St. Louis is in Illinois, and there is a vested interest from the East St. Louis perspective in having the Arch area not be cluttered; it's an amazing view across the river. However, East St. Louis is one of the most depressed cities in the entire country - just an utter mess, and the view from the Arch toward East St. Louis already offers a view into the sadness of life in that poor, dismal town. An East St. Louis rep may have been the one who introduced the legislation, but the town across the river from the Arch hasn't received any of the benefit.

    I don't really have an opinion on this matter. When I'm there, I get all kinds of negative feelings - from seeing the courthouse where the Dred Scott decision was made to the underground museum of westward expansion. The official name of the Arch park is a symbol of an imperialism that makes me sick. I can see something symbolic in removing the Arch from the national parks system; if it were framed as a step in renouncing the romanticism of westward expansion and genocide (the museum does a halfway decent job of telling that story - but only as much as a government museum telling its own malicious misadventure can), then it would be completely worthwhile.

    For me, I like to visit the Arch in the way I like to visit graveyards - they are vivid reminders of all the sorrow in our world, allowing us to remember and re-connect with past people. It's why I like to go to the Battle of Little Bighorn, Antietam, or Gettysburg. The Arch, whether locally controlled or nationally controlled, for me is a very sad place - whether it's seeing East St. Louis and being reminded of poverty and racism in our society, turning west and seeing the courthouse of the Dred Scott decision and being reminded of how the rule of law can be used to support great injustice, or looking further west with all the mixed feelings of beauty and wonder mixed with expansion and genocide. Our national park system will always be based on ill gotten gains. It is perhaps most appropriate that the Arch is in that system, and perhaps most appropriate that it is a prime candidate to leave that system.

    Jim Macdonald
    The Magic of Yellowstone
    Yellowstone Newspaper
    Jim's Eclectic World