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  • Bringing Color to the Public Lands Landscape   5 years 44 weeks ago

    I think one needs to separate diversity in the workplace and diversity in park visitors. The Park Service, according to the agency's own numbers, is overwhelmingly Caucasian and decidedly male-oriented. So it shouldn't be surprising to see the agency try to alter those figures.

    Does "white male disease" exist? To a degree, you bet, just as women in many fields are denied equal pay and advancement opportunities. With that said, I'll leave it to the managers, and the courts if need be, to decide whether the methods used to integrate the agency are justified and sound.

    As for diversity in park visitors, I don't believe Mr. Hare was ignoring the foreigners who come to America's parks but rather focusing on Americans who come to the parks. When the international visitors head home, who will remain to become advocates for the parks if progress isn't made in making the park system a favorite retreat for blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans, and all other races that reside within the United States?

  • Bringing Color to the Public Lands Landscape   5 years 44 weeks ago

    "The real question is what diversity can do for all of us."

    No. This isn't a real question. It's not a real question because it doesn't have an answer, and Hare poses the question without even attempting an answer. It's meaningless drivel, mindless mumbo jumbo.

    Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. Diversity. It's a mantra. If repeated enough, it doesn't need to be defined and assertions need no factual backing from scholarly research.

    I was "diversified" out of a job at SEKI. My boss, a Hispanic woman, wanted to "diversify" the staff, so she hired a Hispanic woman for my position. On a return visit, I attended the new employee's hike; it was one of the worst interpretive programs I'd ever seen. Her first stop lasted 25 minutes, and she confused the words gravity and mass. I overheard some visitors complaining, and many--myself included--left after the first stop.

    A male Hispanic volunteer the same supervisor hired had a record of sexual harassment, and his bad behavior continued. He had to be fired.

    Diversity for the sake of diversity is a joke. Hiring people solely based on their race is unconstitutional and a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    More serious, in my opinion, is that the diversity among park visitors seems to be lagging.

    You're not speaking of diversity being a variety (which is the definition of diversity) of visitors, because there is a huge variety of visitors in parks. Again, hang out in the Zion VC and you'll hear French, German, Italian, Japanese, Russian, and other languages spoken. You'll hear Americans speaking regional dialects, you'll see old and young people, and People from all over the world visit and bring their unique experiences and cultures.

    No. The diversity mantrics focus exclusively on race--skin color--and when percentages don't match up, they cry racism.

    Such race consciousness, in my opinion, is a form of racism.

    And both of these "problems" pale in comparison to true threats to national parks: climate change, invasive species, environmental degradation, and excessive development.

  • Bringing Color to the Public Lands Landscape   5 years 44 weeks ago

    the fact is that not only has this been going on for a long time, it is also that the outdoor industry and the public lands management agencies are freaking out about it. (as much as an unwieldy, entirely unimble government agency can freak out about anything a politician isn't pushing on them) all sorts of sports are declining, as evidenced in a relatively dated usfws study showing fishing hunting and the like having way less people participating. parks visitation is down as noted and discussed on this blog. additionally, the outdoor industry is focusing on diversity and children in some marketing as well as agencies like the forest service pushing their "get kids outside" initiative following the failed joint effort with blm of "get fit with us."

    but while i don't disagree with mr. hare's premise, i do believe however that his essay should have focused on urban youth rather than just a lack of diversity, which i feel is just a symptom of a larger problem. i don't think it is an issue of race but rather of age... most kids these days aren't getting outside (read louv's "last child in the woods") at all, let alone onto our nation's parks and forests.

  • Should Anything Be Done With Angel's Landing?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    my son and i where there on may 20 and may 25 of 2007 we climbed upto scouts' landing just below angels landing and based on the amount of people going up and down, the time of day and the wind chose not to finish the climb up to angels' landing. other people made a similar chose and when either on or backdown. if someone chooses to continue due to a bad decision that is their chose and the have to be helded accounable for it not the park. as forest's mama said "stupid is as stupid does"

  • West Yellowstone: A Gateway Town Worth Hanging Around   5 years 44 weeks ago

    We stayed in West Yellowstone last year while visiting the park and it was a great place to stay. Threre were some nice restaurants and the hotel we stayed at was comfortable. The access to the park is very good when you cannot find a place to stay in the park.

  • Private Party At Charlestown Navy Yard Doesn't Lack Alcohol   5 years 44 weeks ago

    You should have been there for this...I was. I am a resident of the area and was told I could not walk down the Pier (which I do every night) by someone in a yellow shirt. I spoke with one of the Park Service officers and they told I could still ultilize the park even with this event.

    I don't mind the Park Service having weddings and small events but to try and close that section of the Navy Yard so some private organization can have a PARTY! Heard rumors that the Park officers should have arrested more people.

  • Tragedy Stalks the National Parks   5 years 44 weeks ago

    I'm not sure what Dickey's point was, but the use of profanity and personal attacks fail to drive discussion and are not condoned on this site. While we are interested in hearing as many points of view as possible, those that resort to such approaches will either be edited or removed.

  • Tragedy Stalks the National Parks   5 years 44 weeks ago

    If you consider the border parks in Arizona alone, sure, there are deaths in the National Parks every day.
    The Morning Report on the NPS site is a good source if you want your daily dose of morbidity.

    http://home.nps.gov/applications/morningreport/

    -- Jon Merryman

  • Tragedy Stalks the National Parks   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Gee, Dicky, how about a little civility in your postings?

    Rick Smith

  • Park Shuttles, More Than Just A Bus?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    I wish there was a better shuttle system in many of the national parks. I think that the use of car actually restricts your freedom when you visit the park. For example, if you go hiking, you always have to come back to the point where you left your car. Rather than walking 5 miles to some place and then 5 miles back on the exactly same trail, I would prefer walking for 10 miles on the trail that would take me from one shuttle stop to another.

  • Glacier's Shuttle System Rolling Along the Sun Road   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Susan, you sound like a real neat person to travel and be with. Unfortunately, Becky definitely needs a attitude adjustment. Let's get her started on with more flower power (an old hippie slogan).

  • Glacier's Shuttle System Rolling Along the Sun Road   5 years 44 weeks ago

    To be able to see the beauty and grandness of this totally awesome park I would ride with anyone.The spectacular wiews ,wildlife,flora and fauna are a very special part of my life experiences.People need to understand that everyone is in the parks for the very same reason,be you a hippi,yuppie,or any other thing you want to label people.If we are to respect Mother nature and all Her glories,you first have to have respect for yourself and everyone else.Being a self proclaimed Harley riding hippie,I am also the mother of three fine grown men,the wife of a very fine man for thirty years,a career woman for one of the biggest class one railroads in the country,and a very interesting person you would probably enjoy chatting with if you so chose to.Maybe we will be on the same bus ,I have some nice stories about my visits to the parks across this great nation of ours,I would enjoy hearing about your adventures,maybe we will sit together on the bus and become friends.

  • West Yellowstone: A Gateway Town Worth Hanging Around   5 years 44 weeks ago

    I hadn't heard about Ruby's Inn trying to incorporate - that's awesome. Nothing better than spending a couple of winter days and nights at Ruby's for about $49/night.

    Off-season travel rocks!

  • Climate Change: What Implications Does it Carry for the Parks?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Ruth, read between the lines what so called PhD is advocating...consume...consume until your hearts delight. I'm not alarmist, nor do I live in a cave like FOX NEWS would like to peg us who truly believe that Al Gore is on to something that is rational and potentially forthcoming in disaster. What's your beef? When Dr. Jensen from NASA speaks on global warming he dosen't appear to be a alarmist, but speaks quiet candidly on some rather convincing evidence that global warming is man induced...and I don't think he lives in a cave. This third world BS on the economy, is another example of the scare tactics by the right wing bloggers and right wind frantics. Your quote, "sure, we are all better off with less pollution"...well, let's really do something about it, and keep informing the American public that less carbon use is better for the environment. Did you ever check the rates of respiratory diseases in Los Angeles lately, especially among the young childeran and the elderly...there alarming high...now that's something to be deeply concerned about. Agree!? Yes, were all inter-connected to the environment but in the most unhealthy way...just take a real look Ruth instead of being an ostrich with your head buried in a right wing sand hole.

  • Climate Change: What Implications Does it Carry for the Parks?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Snowbird:
    You sound as if you might live in a cave...you must not "consume" anything! Wow...
    The PhD never said that the planet is not warming, he just disputes that humans have anything or much to do with it (or can do about it), and I agree. If you follow the money, the alarmists have just as much to gain monetarily as the so-called "consumptive" industries...check and see what Algore is making off his speeches!...and doesn't he use a lot of petrol to fly around the country and world to spew his convenient (convenient to fill his coffers) lies?
    Sure, we are all better off with less pollution, but keep in mind that volcano and even Yellowstone hot springs and vents alone discharge FAR more polluting gasses 24 hours a day than we humans do...also keep in mind that we are not separate from the ecosystem, we are part of it...everthing is connected.
    The American public is slowly starting to see what a hoax (only meant to reduce our economy to third-world status) all this alarmism is, thanks to scientists like Mr. Renault who have no stake in this issue.

  • Climate Change: What Implications Does it Carry for the Parks?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Mr. Renault, I assume you refute NASA's indepth and extremely conscientious work on global warming...especially the brilliant work done by Dr. Jensen at NASA (remember how the goverment tried to stifle his work). It appears since Al Gore's successful documentary on global warming: An Inconvenient Truth, the heavy hitters for the polluting industries are desperately trying to label his film as bogus science. Nonsense, the worlds leading climatologist (and most) agree with Mr. Gore's assessment of global warming. Your probably one of the very few that disagrees, and most likely works for a company that pays you well to say the opposite...just like the tobacco companies. Public opinion will not be swayed by the oil companies, the utility companies, and the mining companies to think differently, despite the millions of dollars to distort the real truth about global warming. I agree, we have no control over the climate, but we have control over are heavy consumptious life stlye...not more this and more that. But less is better!? Agree? Besides, what's wrong in taking are foot off the gas pedal a little bit so that we ALL can breathe better.

  • Glacier's Shuttle System Rolling Along the Sun Road   5 years 44 weeks ago

    I don't want to ride a shuttle with nasty smelly hippies.

  • Climate Change: What Implications Does it Carry for the Parks?   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Cmon now...we still know so little about the dynamic system that is our global climate....
    So what caused "global warming" before the last ice age? Cars?
    Our global climate has for the history of the planet changed many times in both directions...what we are going thru now is a natual uptick in temperatures...it could just as easily head the other direction tomorrow...next week...next year, and WE have no control whatsoever over it.
    Any of you who are old enuf to remember, scientists were sounding the alarm over "Global Cooling" back in the 70s...we were all gonna FREEZE to death!
    As far as the Sequoias go, they have tolerated much...if they die off, other species will replace them...don't get all sick with worry.
    "Acid rain", the "population bomb"...I don't know if I have enuf fear left in me...

    Roger Renault
    PhD
    Climatology

  • West Yellowstone: A Gateway Town Worth Hanging Around   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Don't forget Moab (aside from the semi traffic down main street). And I must admit I have somewhat fond memories of Cooke(d) City from 1988 when I was there covering the fires.

    Bar Harbor is another great one. Mainstream corporate America hasn't discovered it yet, either, and there are some fantastic restaurants (Cafe This Way, Rupunini, Eden). Estes Park has some memorable qualities as well.

    Did you hear the folks at Ruby's Inn are trying to incorporate...and they're likely to get it!

    As for Gatlinburg, sorry, but it'll never make any top 10 list of my favorite gateway towns.

    As far as future posts rating the gateways, not sure about that, but we are planning to take a look at more of them down the road. Thanks for reading...

  • West Yellowstone: A Gateway Town Worth Hanging Around   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Yes I agree with ya Kurt it is a great gateway town. I was there in May and it had not changed too terribly much since I had last visited way back in 1981. I worked a summer in Yellowstone, at the Lake, and my friends and I always headed for Montana on our off time to re-supply or make merry. Jackson was just not an option, even back then, because everything was way more expensive, somewhat snooty and not worth the drive for the paltry shopping options. The same amount of driving northward to Livingston or Bozeman was a much better trip and Montana is such a much more laid back and Old West type of place than the Jackson Hole area. Dick Cheney and rich Hollywood phonies has only made it worse.

    I think a good article for a future post would be to rate the gateway towns. I personally like West Yellowstone, Springdale, Torrey and Holbrook (great dinosaur statues and the Wig-Wam Motel). Everyone seems to deride Gatlinburg but if you're needing a good dose of roadside tackiness there's no place better this side of Las Vegas to get your fill.

    Enjoying the new website. Thanks for your hard work and efforts.

  • West Yellowstone: A Gateway Town Worth Hanging Around   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Aww, man, now I'm hungry. My son and I are in the neighborhood in late August -- now I need to make a stop for BBQ...
    I'm sure it's better than park concessionaire fare any day...

    -- Jon Merryman

  • Private Party At Charlestown Navy Yard Doesn't Lack Alcohol   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Yeah! one point for Snowbird!!

  • Private Party At Charlestown Navy Yard Doesn't Lack Alcohol   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Anonymous,
    Thanks very much for coming back with a constructive comment. Your questions about park funding are key to the purpose of this website. We have been trying to answer the same questions every week for the last couple years. I have a very strong feeling that our National Parks should be funded entirely through taxes. Federal taxes have been the only 'fair' method of funding federal programs for 200+ years. But, as you point out, the infrastructure of some parks are crumbling, and they are left in a position where they must think creatively about making money by any means necessary. The point I think this article claims, is that this method of fund raising ultimately defeats the purpose of a public park.

    It is worth asking, are all private events at a park wrong? I'd say no. Closing the Charleston Yard for Laura Bush probably has more to do with security than it does private fund raising, and I don't have a problem with that. But, closing the Yard for a private wedding is, in my opinion, exclusionary of the public for the sake of profit, which is wrong in a park operated on public funds. As stated in my earlier comment, I believe the museum event I attended probably was appropriate, because it had more to do with a shared professional outreach than partying in the Yard. But, I'm sure there are folks which would disagree with my position.

    Yes, the "Kennedy liberals" comment is offensive, and does nothing to contribute to the discussion. It was added as a retort to the Cheney comment, which was at least related to the article. I considered both to be political criticism which is a little different than describing another commenter as a 'jackass' (the comment that had been deleted).

  • Private Party At Charlestown Navy Yard Doesn't Lack Alcohol   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Why isn't this comment edited? I find this highly offensive.

  • Private Party At Charlestown Navy Yard Doesn't Lack Alcohol   5 years 44 weeks ago

    Seeing how this current administration has used the Department of Interior and particular, the National Park Service, for a test case of outsourcing jobs and slashing the budget to the point where the departments can barely operate, how else are you supposed to fix parking lots, leaking roofs, and broken computer equipment than to do a little creative fundraising?

    I agree that this is not a big deal. I have been to events at the Navy Yard that weren't open to the public and where alcohol was served. And I'm just Joe Schmoe.

    Even if it was "Kennedy liberals" using the facilities for a price, why is that a debatable issue? Are "Kennedy liberals" not allowed to rent out properties for an event? Not too long ago, Laura Bush was at the Navy Yard for a ceremony that was closed to the public. Does that mean the "Bush conservatives" get the same mirror held up to them?