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  • Quietly Raising Fees at Yosemite   6 years 6 weeks ago
    C'mon now folks...$25.... How much does ONE nice meal cost in a restaurant for two? How about a 12-pack of beer? How long does $25 worth of gas last? How about $25 worth of groceries? If ya think $25 is too high for 7 days, buy the park's annual pass for only $40! It lasts for a WHOLE YEAR...and again, apply that price to the items above...perhaps you can get TWO meals for $40.... If one is visiting many parks, $80 measly bucks isn't a whole lot either...$6.66/month to be exact...I wonder how many 12-packs of beer and packs of cigarettes that "low income" person buys a month?? Let's have some PERSPECTIVE here....
  • Denali: Fees To Feed the Dogs   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Several times in recent years the Washington office of the NPS has polled parks to find out how tight budgets were affecting visitor services, with the not-so-subtle message that park superintendents were prohibited from making overt closures. People need to convey the message to Congress and the NPS Director's office that they'd prefer honesty to either (1) smoke and mirrors, pretending things are fine but cutting behind the scenes, or (2) fee increases. JLongstreet A national park superintendent
  • Quietly Raising Fees at Yosemite   6 years 6 weeks ago
    These park-by-park raises in entrance fees are NOT being driven by rangers or park superintendents. They have been mandated from the Washington office of the NPS. Yet each park is being required to announce them individually, possibly to spread the anger rather than having a focused target where it belongs. It's hard, but don't blame the messengers at the park level. We appealed Washington's mandated entrance fee level in our park and were blown off. JLongstreet A national park superintendent
  • Quietly Raising Fees at Yosemite   6 years 6 weeks ago
    You could just as easily argue that the because the fee is per car rather than per person, it discriminates against older people (who are more likely to come by twos and therefore are being charged $12.50 per person) and favors families who come by fours and fives and pay less per person (and who have more of an impact due to sheer numbers).
  • Quietly Raising Fees at Yosemite   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Well, here is what would need to be studied on this point. Are people not visiting parks because of user fees? I don't think that's the case; the trip to a park is already quite significant as it is in getting to one and getting back from one. If user fees are proving to keep some people back, what is the demographic? Are they usually more local, regional, etc.? So, supply and demand economics only works here if people know and figure in the cost before they go to a park. It's very unlikely that someone drives 2,000 miles and then turns back because they didn't realize there was a user fee. Perhaps, the Park Service banks on the idea that the entrance fee is tantamount to something like the price of salt or the price of oil. If something is considered a necessity, then people will pay more and more and more for it. Since the price of the user fee is still insignificant compared with other travel costs, it's not likely to figure in, and so the person faced with user fee is likely to treat it as a necessary cost. Thus, they can keep raising it - whatever the visitation numbers (since the user fees aren't the cause of the decline, simply a correlation) - and be able to raise more and more revenue. Economics isn't as simple as supply and demand because we rarely are dealing with anything that has a one-to-one correlation. Yet, whatever the economics or the reasons, I think the value reasons against them are compelling. If you are right and rangers want lower visitation so that there are fewer people and see a connection between lower class people and abuse of parks, then that all on its own should be resisted because its another case of mistaking a correlation with a cause. Since class isn't the cause of "park destruction", then user fees only arbitrarily can work to help protect these parks, and we replace one good for an evil needlessly.
  • Quietly Raising Fees at Yosemite   6 years 6 weeks ago
    I spoke with an economics professor at the University of Washington this weekend and asked him, "Hey, if visitation to parks is dropping, but parks want to increase visitation, does it make sense to increase fees?" He answered it made sense only if managers ultimate goal is to keep visitation low, insinuating that's the real underlying reason for the fee hikes. Could this be? Certaintly administrators are familiar with economic rules regarding supply and demand: Price increases, visitation drops. Price decreases, visitation increases. Visitation increases, receipts increase. Simple, right? They can't be that clueless, can they? If they're not that clueless, perhaps there is a "secret" goal to keep visitation numbers low. Perhaps there is a "secret" goal to price lower income vistors (such as recent immigrants) out of the park, maybe partially because these groups sometimes impact resources to a great degree than more affluent visitors and visitors who're more educated. Or maybe the bureauracy really is irrevocably broken and unfathomably ignorant.
  • My Mentor   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Jeremy,

    This is a touching and fitting tribute to an NPS legendary great. I still remember how you and I listened to him and eventually dubbed him "Guru Hathaway".

    Funny to think that it's been a dozen years since we crammed into that tiny apartment. Also funny to think that we shared our summer of formal interpretation together.
  • Wilderness Theme Parks?   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Have never fully understood this need to sanitize Nature (do not want to?) Now the Zoo's they build are down right frightening to me... "We all strive for safety, prosperity, comfort, long life, and dullness. The deer strives with his supple legs, the cowman with trap and poison, the statesman with pen, the most of us with machines, votes, and dollars, but it all comes to the same thing: peace in our time. A measure of success in this is all well enough, and perhaps is a requisite to objective thinking, but too much safety seems to yield only danger in the long run. Perhaps this is behind Thoreau’s dictum: in wildness is the salvation of the world. Perhaps this is the hidden meaning in the howl of the wolf, long known among mountains, but seldom perceived among men." Aldo Leopold “Thinking Like a Mountain”
  • Denali: Fees To Feed the Dogs   6 years 6 weeks ago
    It is wrong for the park to keep the dogs tethered. Jurisdictions across the United States are banning this practice, because it's cruel to dogs. For information about the cruelties of tethering, visit the Sled Dog Action Coalition website, http://www.helpsleddogs.org
  • Tunnels For Bears   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Stupid deer. Can't they read the "no pedestrian" signs on the freeway on ramps?
  • Denali: Fees To Feed the Dogs   6 years 6 weeks ago
    I think we should charge for using the toilet. They do in Bulgaria. Charge $1 each, payable by debit card, or in remote areas, quarters. But seriously, I'm with you on closing shop for programs that are under/unfunded. Close enough roads due to lack of repair, and visitors will SCREAM.
  • Tunnels For Bears   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Coyotes, cougars and even bears seem to negotiate the Southern California freeways just fine. They are routinely found in neighborhoods far from the wilds and mountains after having crossed our infamous freeways. But if this works to keep elk and deer off the freeway, then it may save lives. Deer/car collisions kill a lot of people each year.
  • Of Elk Hunts and Revenue Streams   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Ranger X, something like a cross between George Catlin and a Wild West Show, eh? How retro... It might work!
  • Audiocast #1 : Washington State Plan to Abolish the FLREA   6 years 6 weeks ago
    We should pay taxes or user fees to park on public lands- not both. It is extremely complicated for the average person to stay in compliance with all of the jurisdictions involved.

    They work for us.
  • NPS's Backlog, Updated   6 years 6 weeks ago
    That's great in theory Ranger, but the problem is that most of those roads were pushed in wherever the logging/mining/inholding interest wanted them. That was usually the quickest route, not the most sustainable. Many have culverts which are going to blow (if they haven't already), dumping large amounts of sediment into what could be pristine creeks, streams, and rivers and damaging water quality and riparian habitat. We really need to get in there and obliterate those old roads or at least rehab the major drainage structures. It might take a century, but if we can at least mitigate the major damage areas, nature will slowly but surely take care of the rest. Of course, thats not going to happen, because if we don't have the money to maintain them we certainly won't have it to obliterate them.
  • Of Elk Hunts and Revenue Streams   6 years 6 weeks ago
    After paying the highest fee, require the buffalo hunters to wear moccasins, head dresses, and war paint and to use atlatls, spears, arrows, knives, and clubs, and you've got yourself one helluva living history program! You can charge $20 bucks a pop for tickets to the show! Fun for the whole family!
  • NPS's Backlog, Updated   6 years 6 weeks ago
    How 'bout letting some of those $4.3 billion roads turn into very nice hiking trails or 4x4 trails at the price of: FREE! :)
  • My Mentor   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Thanks for this. You've made my day.

    I'm Steve...Gary's son. I'm glad you remember him this way. I do too. I tagged along on thousands of his Stronghold tours...So many that I have the entire story memorized exactly as he used to tell it. I was there when he lead the Modocs through it during the first Indian Gathering in 1990...It was on my 10th birthday. I was there for his last Stronghold tour...Years after he retired he gave it one last time, just the two of us, and just for me.

    He retired from the NPS because he was utterly defeated by the bureaucrats. A (now former) superintendent at Lava Beds forced him into early retirement by rejecting every idea he had as the Chief Interpreter. He returned to Lava Beds only once, just for our last Stronghold tour. My mother still refuses to return.

    This past summer, I applied at Lava Beds for a permanent position. I received a letter of rejection from the same superintendent. Apparently the Hathaway name is still not welcome there.

    With all this said, I am not bitter. It's useless to fight against the NPS brass. I'll make a difference in the same way he did; through the visitors.

    Thanks again for this post'I'm now your newest subscriber.

    ~Steve
  • NPS's Backlog, Updated   6 years 6 weeks ago
    "Which makes me wonder just a little why the agency is so focused on spending $3 billion through the highly touted National Park Centennial Initiative to build new stuff that it won't be able to maintain?" -- Unfortunately, its always easier (not necessarily 'easy') to get funding for construction rather than maintenance. If I want to build new trails, I can find grant money for that in a minute. If I want to maintain existing trails, I can find the money but have to jump through more hoops. If I want to repair trailhead facilities like parking areas or put a new water system in a campground, there isn't a dime to spare. People always like to be able to look at something fun to be able to say "that's where our money went". Fixing an SST isn't exactly what most people have in mind. I'm not generally on the anti-privatization bandwagon, but this way they can build all kinds of new facilites and then five years later they won't have the money to maintain them anymore. They'll have no choice (not that it will break their hearts) but to farm it out to a concessionaire or permittee to fix, maintain, use, and charge money for - but I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
  • BLM Being Sued in Utah Over Tar Sands Plans   6 years 6 weeks ago
    I am just completing the environmental history of Canyonlands National Park. This will be published separately by the NPS and a university press. Chapters Four and Six and the conclusion of the book deals with the tar sands issue in relation to Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, future hopes of the NPS to expand Canyonlands to a rim-to-rim park, and overall ecology of the Greater Canyon Lands region. I want to be as up to date as possible as I near the final revisions and publication process. If anyone wants to help keep me in the loop that would be great. Samuel Schmieding, Ph.D Arizona State University History Department
  • Tunnels For Bears   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Kurt, Apparently you have never seen the deer overpasses built over I-78 in the Watchung Reservation in Joisey.
  • Wilderness Theme Parks?   6 years 6 weeks ago
    Nice touch with the congresspeople's addresses there. When I was on a fee-demo forest with the USFS, people used to love to complain to me on how the fees were unfair or illegal. I didn't (and don't) care either way, but I would always ask if they had ever spoken to their congressman or congresswoman about it and 99% of the time I would get a blank stare. If more people would become involved, well, I'm not sure things would change much but at least it would give our reps something to think about. Keep up the good fight!
  • NPS Unsure What ATB Will Do to Revenues   6 years 7 weeks ago
    "seems 'ol Billy Clinton didn't do a whole lot for the Park Service, did he??" A little history lesson: Congress was controlled by Republicans during Clinton's tenure, and it's up to Congress to to approve the President's budget. But Newt was too busy with his "Contract on America" and trying to embarass the president by spending millions of taxpayer dollars on a failed attempt to convict the president for lying about his private life. In 2001, Bush promised billions for the NPS, mostly for roads and construction. Then came 9/11 and those billions got funneled to Haliburton instead. And when adjusted for inflation, the trend in Bush's NPS budgets is downward.
  • NPS Unsure What ATB Will Do to Revenues   6 years 7 weeks ago
    Yes, Sally a little homework helps along with some critical thinking. Instead of mouthing off with your right wing hate rhetoric...start kicking in some constructive ways in how we can save the NPS from Bush's budget slashes.
  • Is the Centennial Initiative In Need of Life Support?   6 years 7 weeks ago
    Ummm...ok, I never thought I'd be in a position to defend the Democrats, but it would be helpful to use arguments that make sense. Given that this is the first budget with a Democratic Congress in a dozen years, I'm not sure how Obey could be responsible for that. There's enough wrong with government, right? There's no need to resort to bad or trivial arguments.