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  • Is Senator Feinstein Speaking Out of Both Sides of Her Mouth on National Park Matters?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    ypw -- I believe the issue regarding time may turn on when the lease runs out for the Oyster farm? Is that your understanding?

    A national park superintendent would be operating inconsistently with both the Act of 1916 establishing the NPS, as well as the potential wilderness and publically-reviewed GMP decisions, wouldn't she/he, if they were actually to RENEW a lease?

    Isn't a renewal of a lease in effect a decision by the NPS that the use IS conforming, and consistent with the purposes of the National Park System?? Generally I believe the NPS in law and policy only can enter into commercial agreements that are consistent with the purposes of the park system?

    There are many places in the US where parks are established, while protecting "valid existing rights," I believe. If the right, such as with this lease, has a sunset date, then that date would mean the prior use would be terminated. Parks have been established with cattle grazing rights, as well, left over from their days under the BLM management, and those grazing permits generally are permitted to be continued as a valid existing right, or bought out if too damaging even to be grandfathered in.

    My guess is part of the problem with NPS management of this Oyster lease is the way the NPS is coming around to dealing with "impairment" under policies developed in the 1990's. NPS was responsible to make sure there would be no 'impairment' from its activities or those it permitted to the park. So, if a superintendent wanted to build a visitor center in sensitive habitat, he would be challenged by Higher Ups, such as in the case of eagle habitat in the Upper Delaware, with a study demonstrating that the development was inappropriate, and stopped. But doing a study to determine if an Oyster farm is an impairment has the question completely backward. A commercial activity in any national park is not to be permitted at all -- much less in designated wilderness -- unless the commercial activity is needed to further PARK PURPOSES. The oyster farm was never made a park purpose by congress, just like most pre-existing commercial operations in parks are not designated as necessary for the park to be a successful park. But the superintendent or the NPS at Point Reyes got stupified in applying the idea of the study of impairment to an activity that in no way is consistent with a park. So, when the permit ends, it cannot be extended if we expect the park to be a park.

    By doing the study, it did give the impression that if no 'impairment' were found, then the oyster farm would be OK, and seemed to hinge everything on a study that was looking at the wrong thing. And, clearly, the guy at the National Academy of Science, in just studying the relative health of an oyster farm as an oyster farm -- not as a matter of congressional policy -- way missed the point.

    -- Finally, on Richard's point on Point Reyes being so well mapped it is not really wilderness, of course all wilderness study areas, even the ones in the most remote parts of Alaska, were already well mapped and well traveled when proposed as wilderness and designated by congress. What wilderness in a national park is really for is protecting the land from the National Park Service. Most other uses, including an oyster farm, would be a violation of the Act of 1916 (the NPS organic act). This is not so true with other public land agencies that permit oil and gas development or road development, but it is with a park. In a park, the danger of development almost always is because the NPS authorizes or initiates a development that compromises the integrity of the park.

    That is why Congress created wilderness in parks even in the East Coast -- like at Fire Island National Seashore -- that had been intensively used over the years. At Katmai wilderness in Alaska, the NPS was going to build a suspension bridge over a tiny stream that the tour bus would drive through to take tourists to the Valley of 10,000 Smokes, because very occasionally a flash flood meant the gravel road the forded the stream was unpassable.

    The point congress is making is to direct the NPS to MANAGE the area as a roadless, untrammeled area. Wilderness designation is a LAW, not a primeval romantic, pre-human, condition. The congressional history of Point Reyes seems to indicate that congress expected the NPS to eliminate inconsistent developments over time, and the phased implementation of wilderness seems to have been a compromise way to achieve that direction to the NPS from Congress.

    Otherwise, congress would have congressionally designated the oyster farm as a primary purpose of the park.

  • Reader Participation Day: Do You Believe There Should Be Overflight Tours of National Parks?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    I would rather have them in the air than on the ground. The plane-going sightseers are the ones that drive around all day stopping for an instant for pictures and standing in line to piss.

  • Reader Participation Day: Do You Believe There Should Be Overflight Tours of National Parks?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    There should be a no-fly zone over national parks. Families go there to relax, get back to nature and to enjoy the complete beauty our national parks hold. This would be greatly disturbed by aircraft buzzing over them. Pictures could not be the same. "Waiting for the airplane/helicopter to get out of the shot" would bring stress to what is now an awesome experience. People do not spend enough quality time together (or in solitude) in this hustle and bustle world we live in. Adding noise and unnatural objects flying thru the airspace only brings a fast and chaotic world into the parks that are now an escape.

  • Major Road Closure Coming to Yellowstone National Park   5 years 42 weeks ago

    The closure adds over 80 miles to your journey if you want to reach, for instance Mammoth from West Yellowstone, in essence splitting the park into two. So please plan accordingly; for instance, don't use the North Entrance if you wanted a fairly easy journey otherwise to Old Faithful. Don't use the West Entrance if your goal was to go to the Lamar Valley and the Beartooth Highway, unless you have a lot of time to spend.

    It's still easier than winter travel between West Yellowstone and Gardiner, something that those who work on the buffalo issue know too well, as there is a lot of need to be in both locations.

    Jim Macdonald
    The Magic of Yellowstone
    Yellowstone Newspaper
    Jim's Eclectic World

  • Reader Participation Day: What's Your Favorite National Park Trail?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    The Mist Trail in Yosemite. It's short, strenuous, and packed. It also features what may be the most perfect waterfall in the Western US in Vernal Fall. I think it also looks better when at moderate water levels - more like a flat curtain of water than a raging waterfall.

    Other than that - maybe the Sky Trail in Point Reyes National Seashore.

    I'd go so far as to classify the Half Dome cables, the Virgin River Narrows, and the route up Angels Landing as cross country.

  • Is Senator Feinstein Speaking Out of Both Sides of Her Mouth on National Park Matters?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    I've read the 1976 wilderness laws that set aside parts of Point Reyes and other units as wilderness and potential wilderness. None of it mandates a schedule for conversion of "potential wilderness" into "wilderness". The only language is that once "nonconforming uses" are removed, it can be designated as wilderness. In fact this has happened before, and the new designation has been entered into the Federal Register.

    The current "reservation of use" does allow the superintendent to renew it at his discretion. There's no law actually forcing the superintendent's hand to convert what's currently the oyster farm into wilderness. I suspect the Solicitor's opinion was just that - an opinion that hasn't been tested in court. After reading the law, it seems that "nonconforming use" could be continued indefinitely.

    In any case, the biggest problem for disturbances for the local seal population is probably kayakers and hikers making too much noise or getting too close. From what I've heard, the oyster farm employees know they have to take all possible steps to avoid disturbing wildlife because they know there might be negative consequences.

  • Body, Presumed To Be That Of Missing Backpacker, Found in Grand Canyon National Park   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Could Bryce have tried to use Bonita Creek as a short cut to the river ? Perhaps low on water in Surprise Valley and rather than go on to Thunder River he elected to descend into the Bonita drainage. Did anyone learn where the backpack was found ? Was it upstream from the 100 foot pour off ? The artical said the NPS reached the body by ascending Bonita Creek.

  • Pinnacles National Monument: Should It Be Labeled A National Park?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Part of the deal is that POTUS can declare a National Monument without an act of Congress.

  • Remember, No Mardis Gras Beads or Dry Ice While Floating at Niobrara National Scenic River   5 years 42 weeks ago

    I wouldn't say it is a big spring break thing, more of a weekend-long frat party. This happens mainly on the weekend, so unless you would like a detailed lesson on human anatomy..plan your trip during the week. You will enjoy the view and the lack of large crowds!

  • Flash Flood Leads to Rescue of 200+ Campers at Ozark National Scenic Riverways   5 years 42 weeks ago

    That is my son's truck and my trailer shown in the picture. We were camped in the 100 loop of the Alley Springs Campground. We were awakened at 3:00 with water above our ankles (not 4:00 like the report above shows). We immediately began to pack our belongings into the van, truck and trailer. My husband drove the van out to the left of the bathroom (thru the grass) onto the day float lot while my son attempted to drive to the right of the bathroom. Unfortunately, that side was lower and the force of the water floated the trailer and pulled his truck into deeper water. A group of 4 young men camped across from us drove into Eminence to get cell phone service and found a ranger at one of the resturaunts having breakfast. He was unaware of the problems until the young men told him about the river rising. At about the same time, my son called 911 on the pay phone at the ranger's station in the campground. It was a good 45 minutes from that time that the first ranger showed up. he was followed by an ambulance and a sheriff's car. When we left the campground about 6:40 there was only 5 or 6 people there to help the campers. When we returned about an hour later there was a large number of rangers and other individuals to assist. Our question is "Why was no one monitoring the level of the river after the amount of rain that had fallen in the past several days; and why did it take so long for help to arrive after the flood was reported.

  • Pinnacles National Monument: Should It Be Labeled A National Park?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    If Cuyahoga in the heart of dirty old Cleveland or the slummy looking bath houses of Hot Springs can be national parks, why not Pinnacles?

  • More Low Water Woes at Lake Mead – but This Isn't the Worst Drought on Record for the Lake   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Your first answer was a sophisticated way of saying nothing last forever, I do agree with that. I dont recall saying that I thought it would.
    i split my last post in two section...two seperate thoughts. i have tried twice this is my third attemped to post that thought, is it that my opinion does not agree with their opinion so they refuse to post mine? or do I not understand how this works?

    Nothing not even the earth that you stand on will remain all will be gone. That is biblical and science seems to agree. (yeah I know science and the bible agreeing what a stretch) not arguing that we should not rape the earth but there must be a balance.
    The issue was draining lake mead and the impact that would have. If lake mead is drained and Las vegas gets its water from underground wells, this would have a huge impact on the aquifer from a ecologic stand point. the well would not be keep up with the demand no water = no economy, people cant work to feed there families they leave, Dave gets his wish and is all alone in vegas.

    I do not live under the delusion that this economy will last forever. would like to see it out last me. you are retired. You have raised your kids, bought and paid for there needs. There is a lot of us out here that still have that to accomplish.

    to tahoma; I do not recall saying that I believed our civilization would last for ever. it is not going to. read ray's first reponse he said it....nothing last forever. just look at history, there is nothing you can do to stop it either, just a matter of time. You can, on the other hand, speed it up or slow it down. The issue being draining of lake mead not cedars of Lebanon. Draining lake mead would speed up the destuction of our economy here in vegas and I would like to finish raising my family without having to pull BK and leaving do to an economic situation caused by no water. it may happen on its own....may have already happend, but lets not speed it up by removing its water supply. As for the good old USA, it is not going to last forever either, but I am in the hopes that the stars and stripes out last me for many years to come. Balance that is the key

  • Updated: Greenpeace Climbers Arrested for Climate Change Protest at Mount Rushmore National Memorial   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Why should our national monuments be that target of these greenpeace idiots their the ones who are ruining nature with their stupid attention getting acts Frankly i hope the judge puts them all on a highway clean up crew then they can realy clean up the enviroment

  • UPDATED: Search Ends for Woman Missing from Cruise Ship in Glacier Bay National Park   5 years 42 weeks ago

    I don't see any way a person can just fall overboard. I have been on 8 cruises and 4 different cruise lines. The rails are between waist and chest high. [This comment has been edited.]

  • Pinnacles National Monument: Should It Be Labeled A National Park?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    The Pinnacles is a great place. Fantastic vistas and the spires are awesome. It's a hefty drive from San Jose through Hollister so it's not crowded. It gets REAL hot during July and August and is very dry. The caves are very neat, but sometimes they are closed due to the bat situation. The small pond is also fun to sit by. I also don't think it merits the status of a National Park, but then I've not been to most of the dinky ones either.

  • More Low Water Woes at Lake Mead – but This Isn't the Worst Drought on Record for the Lake   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Anonymous, I don't recall saying that I do not "enjoy" the amenities of modern life, and what I suggest is not "throwing in the towel" or hiding out in a cave. We, and that includes me, have all been conditioned to believe that we somehow are entitled to a lifestyle based on a level of consumption that is patently unsustainable. Indeed, this conditioning is so pervasive and ingrained that to suggest it is either destructive or self defeating elicits strong emotional response from those who cannot conceive of living any other way. It is like suggesting that the Bible's reference to "dominion" actually should be interpreted as stewardship rather than a master-slave relationship. Acknowledging our complicity in what some scientists are calling the Seventh Great Extinction is the first step critical step toward living up to our stewardship responsibilities. That responsibility includes leaving an earth that can provide a nurturing environment for children yet unborn. That is my choice. You must make your own.

  • Pinnacles National Monument: Should It Be Labeled A National Park?   5 years 42 weeks ago

    I've been there, enjoyed Bear Gulch Cave when the entire length was open to the public, and wish to return for some real hiking.

    I really don't see how the place would warrant full "National Park" status. It's really small and doesn't have one major feature or multiple smaller features that I would think would merit the big NPS designation. I don't see how it could support the kind of visitation that Congressman Farr envision. There frankly isn't that much to do other than hike. You can drive to a few overlooks and see the Pinnacles. Right now entry is closed off at night, although they have automated gates to allow people to leave. Maybe it's good if you're a climber, but that's a rather limited segment of the population.

    It's actually pretty close to a major freeway (US-101). None of the full National Parks in California are that close to any freeways except maybe Redwood (US-101 passes through it) and Joshua Tree (I-10). Freeway access is hardly a disqualifying factor, since Yosemite, Lassen, and SEKI are miles away from freeways. People go to those places despite the distances.

    However - this does demonstrate that in many ways the "National Park" status is a politically derived one. There are lightly visited national parks, such as Dry Tortugas and Great Basin (I know the ancient bristlecone forest is there) where it might be argued that there wasn't really anything special that merited the designation. Some member of Congress had a spot in their district that they thought could use some tourist dollars.

  • Flash Flood Leads to Rescue of 200+ Campers at Ozark National Scenic Riverways   5 years 42 weeks ago

    While we where waiting for our ride to what was left of Two Rivers the small sand bank that was there holding our canoes in place disapeared. Also before we left Two Rivers it started raining again.

  • Ever Consider "Adopting" A Cove at Lake Mead National Recreation Area   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Kudos to you and your group, Jimhiker. Back when I was a Boy Scout we did a similar cleanup at a provincial park in Ontario. Seems like there's not enough good guys around to handle the clean up these days.

  • Ever Consider "Adopting" A Cove at Lake Mead National Recreation Area   5 years 42 weeks ago

    About a month ago our troop did the canoeing merit badge at the lake. We go around Govt Wash area as it is convienient to get the canoes into and it has boat access. But it is also a HEAVILY used area as well. We arrived at about 8:30 in the morning and immediately put out the camp fire left by the previous group, handed out gloves, trash bags and proceeded to clean the area we would use. 8 trash bags later, it was useable and fairly clean. The area was about 25 yds across and15yds deep. Went back this past Thursday evenning and it looked worse then we first used it a month ago. Sad state of affairs when the majority no longer care enough to pick up after themselves and those that do take their trash are in the minority.

  • Flash Flood Leads to Rescue of 200+ Campers at Ozark National Scenic Riverways   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Steven Neu (not verified),
    Wow, exciting. An adventure of the finest kind!
    Thanks, interesting how the water in the Current slowed down, still clear etc.

    "...adventure without regard to prudence, profit, self-improvement,
    learning or any other serious thing" -Aldo Leopold-

  • More Low Water Woes at Lake Mead – but This Isn't the Worst Drought on Record for the Lake   5 years 42 weeks ago

    So....tahoma, ray bane, do we just put on a pair of leather skin speedos and live like let say tarzan and jane just giving up because it has happened in the past. Sitting around waiting for the doom and gloom is not my Idea of a good time. kind of enjoying my life (fishing, boating, driving not walking, running water indoor plumbing to name a few things) and if you don't like those things and want the world to go back to the stone age, I have one thing to first.

    And if you get into the biblical thing Tahoma you should be aware that according to the bible all that we see will be destroyed soon enough anyway so enjoy it while it lasts.

    What then should we do; shall we do are best and enjoy what has been given us, (enjoying does not mean abusing, abusing is not the answer and niether throwing in the towel) or curl up in the fetal position and wait to die. the choice is yours.

  • Flash Flood Leads to Rescue of 200+ Campers at Ozark National Scenic Riverways   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Steven -

    Thanks for the report. Glad to know your trip ended safely!

  • Flash Flood Leads to Rescue of 200+ Campers at Ozark National Scenic Riverways   5 years 42 weeks ago

    Our group was finishing a 3 day trip down the Current on July 30th. Two adults and 3 young kids. Our take out point was Two Rivers which is just past the confluence of the Current and the Jacks Fork and on the far bank. We felt something was amiss around 10:30AM when we noticed our normally free flowing river had no moving water and appeared to be flooded for the last mile before the Jacks Fork. The high level of Jacks Fork was backing up the Current. The water was still clear but gravel bars and trees on the banks were underwater.

    When we neared the confluence, about 150m from the Jacks Fork, another multiday canoe party of 4 canoes and 8 adults stopped us. The NPS did not want anyone to pass that point and was shuttling everyone across the Jacks Fork. The water was about about 10' above normal at that point. A crossing in a canoe would have been deadly as the water was tearing through the confluence at high speed and carrying with it much debris including entire trees. The NPS had both our groups across to Two Rivers in less than an hour. Canoes, gear, and people. They were very efficient and profesional. The boat they used handled the raging river without any issues.

  • Traveler's Top Overlooks In the National Park System   5 years 42 weeks ago

    What's missing from the summit of Half Dome is the view of Half Dome itself! My favorite overlook in Yosemite National Park is Glacier Point. In fact, I believe the best view of Half Dome is obtained from this vantage point. For a view of Half Dome without crowds, try signing out for a scramble/climb up the old Glacier Point Ledge Trail above Camp Curry. The views are terrific along this steep hike, but watch out for falling rock. This hike most definitely is not for everyone, which is why it is now classified as a registered climb.

    At Zion, Angel's Landing offers a fantastic view of the mouth of Zion Canyon. I would also rate as outstanding the view from the top of the geological formation known as the Rockville Bench south of the Virgin River above the towns of Springdale and Rockville, below and just to the west of the Eagle Crags, looking north into the mouth of Zion Canyon at early sunrise or just prior to sunset. This viewpoint is accessible by car, but requires driving on dirt roads once crossing the Virgin River at Rockville. Another viewpoint worth mentioning is the Canyon Overlook. A one-mile trail ends at the top of the Great Arch of Zion with a view into Oak Creek Canyon, the Temples and Towers of the Virgin, the Alter of Sacrifice, the Beehives, and the Great West Temple. This walk is well worth the effort. It's best taken early in the morning to observe the change of color on the red and whilte cliffs with sunrise.

    At Crater Lake, my favorite is the view over the lake prior to sunset from the top of the Watchman, watching the shadow of Wizard Island extend across the lake. As the sun sets in the west, the full moon rises over the eastern horizon near Cloud Cap and Mt. Scott. The overview from the summits of Mt. Scott, Garfield Peak, and Dutton Cliff are also worth mentioning. The hike to the top of Dutton Cliff requires cross-country hiking through pumice. The summit of Dutton Cliff is an abrupt drop off with a view directly upon the sails of the Phantom Ship. After hours at Crater Lake, any place along the rim offers an unforgettable view of the great caldera and the brilliant starry night sky, with the Milky Way seen in its full glory at this time of the year.

    Owen Hoffman
    Oak Ridge, TN 37830