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  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    In response to tom:

    The folks that did this study are not insane. The likelihood of hitting and successfully killing a bear with a gun is quite low unless you are well trained to not only be a "good shot" but to also be able to make the shot under extremely stressful circumstances. Plus, it's very likely that if you simply wound the bear, you have a better chance of the bear coming back to attack you. However, given the wide range of bearspray and the reaction from bears (which is documented) you are more likely to deter a bear attack with the spray then with a gun. Saying we need guns in National Parks to protect ourselves from the wild animals is just fear mongering. A careful and respectful hiker knows how to handle her or himself and avoid encounters with bears.

    One additional point that you elude to is the difficulty in telling whether or not a bear is going to attack. A curious bear standing on its hind legs does not mean an attack is inevitable, but given the fear the pro-gun side is preaching, I am certain that the numbers of bears and other wildlife species will be killed because someone unfamiliar with animal behavior gets scared will skyrocket.

    Let's leave the rule as it stands.

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Once again, all I hear is half the story. The Audubon and DOW collect money from people across the United States to fight their personnal battles by publishing untrue stories and numbers. The Park has done a good job with the shorebirds and no piping plover has ever been run over by an ORV! The picture shown was the most crowed day ever and was taken on the 4th of July I bet. These two groups had a chance to go to the table with eveyone else but instead filed a lawsuit. Real brave, real American......I just sat 8 hours with their lawyers and I have never seen more deceitful people in my life. Know your facts before you speak your mine.

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Boy, this thread sure has deteriorated.

    As far as wildlife being eradicated in order to protect selected species the facts are available. It has been done and will more than likely continue.

    Anonymous (not verified)
    On March 15th, 2008
    Why go to Cape Point to "protest"? It seems if these extremists had any gonads at all, they would be inside the Federal Courthouse on 4/4 and let the judge know how they feel.

    I was troubled by this post.

    First the "protest" was in fact a peaceful gathering of concerned citizens, they hardly qualify as extremist. In most "protests" there are banners and signs complaining about one thing and declaring another. The only signs present that day on the beach were American flags.

    Overall your statement is inflammatory, immature and shows a lack of respect for anyone who might have a viewpoint that differs from yours.

    On your last point so eloquently stated. I can assure you that there will be concerned citizens at this hearing. This ruling will have a direct affect on their livelihood and their future.

  • National Park Service Revenues Down $1.3 Million On Transition to America The Beautiful Pass   6 years 4 weeks ago

    I refuse to buy park passes, even though it would save me a lot of money. I feel like I'm robbing NPS of the money it so desperately needs.

  • Sen. Obama Non-committal on Carrying Loaded Weapons in National Parks   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Interestingly, tom, the state regs generally don't apply to Yellowstone National Park, which has its own judicial system and its own history. It could, however, apply to Grand Teton. (For instance, look at fishing regs in both parks). And, yet, those parks, in terms of access, are generally administered together (though sometimes you have to go through gates at both parks). It would be tricky, at least in the case of these sister Wyoming parks. But, that is probably an exception to the rule due to Yellowstone's unique judicial history.

    Jim Macdonald
    The Magic of Yellowstone
    Yellowstone Newspaper
    Jim's Eclectic World

  • National Park Service Revenues Down $1.3 Million On Transition to America The Beautiful Pass   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Well, perhaps, that explains some of it. Another explanation is the high price of oil and the low dollar. In Yellowstone, there was record visitation; however, from surveys of local businesses, it appears that there was a dramatic increase in foreign visitors (not an increase in the domestic visitors more likely to buy the annual pass). To the extent that domestic visitors are using the parks less due to other cost of living factors, that might explain some of it as well.

    I suspect, though, that the raise in the user fee had something to do with it; not only was it not worthwhile to a lot of visitors, but amongst those who buy the pass, they were certainly aware of the controversy and perhaps chose not to get the pass.

    It would be interesting to see overall revenue to national parks as well as to other public lands due to visitation. That might shed some light on behavior. In any event, a raise in the fee appeared to be ill timed from the government's revenue standpoint.

    Of course, from an ethical standpoint, all user fees - from those that mostly affect the middle class (like National Park user fees) to those that mostly affect the poor (like bus fare) make the notion of a public good rather self contradictory. That kind of class gap doesn't do the places we love very good, especially those like national parks that have the pretense of being egalitarian.

    Jim Macdonald
    The Magic of Yellowstone
    Yellowstone Newspaper
    Jim's Eclectic World

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    "Beyond that, though, aren't we a "people of laws"? Or should we just be able to pick and choose which laws to obey based on whether we like that law or not?"

    Kurt

    As everyone knows the 2nd amendment question is being reviewed in the Supreme Court. That aside, you asked the above question. The precedent which has been set by our sanctuary city and state governments is if they don't agree with the law they ignore it and may even encourage the breaking of the law. I think we can agree that the answer to your question is becoming more and more pick and choose.

    The right to carry in parks is being handled legislatively. At least this issue is being debated with respect to the law. For instance, Wyoming has not come out and told its law enforcement personnel to ignore the federal authority. That's what happens in our cities where police are forbidden to assist in the enforcement of federal laws. I am sure if rangers needed assistance from local law enforcement on this current law they would get it. If it was a question of an immigration law, desertion from the military, or some other law we maybe didn’t like the answer is no help to that agency.

    Joe

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Thank you for a rational answer, finally -- from someone.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    I'm not sure Anonymous has though of all the issues. If it's a simple constitutional debate, they why are the National Parks the target for having weapons in? Why not airports, courtrooms and federal buildings too? The simple fact is that guns kill people. I know there's the whole people kill people thing, but the gun really helps a lot.

  • Sen. Obama Non-committal on Carrying Loaded Weapons in National Parks   6 years 4 weeks ago

    How will the NPS handle the carrying permit of gun owners? Easy go by the states regs just like they do with hunting licenses.

    It comes down to that the few think they should control every aspect of our lives. THEY KNOW WHATS BEST FOR US!

  • National Park Service Revenues Down $1.3 Million On Transition to America The Beautiful Pass   6 years 4 weeks ago

    The story here is even worse than it appears at face value. Given the price increase, from $50 to $80, sales completely tanked! Doing some very rough math, NPS sold approximately 440,000 National Park Passes in 2006 (which by the way isn't an anomaly, its in line with the steady increase in sales since the launch of the NPP in 2000). But that same rough math reveals that NPS sold approximately 260,000 of the ATB passes. The price increase masks the dramatic drop in sales! This isn't the fault of the NPS Fee folks by any stretch - the ATB pass was forced on them by Norton and her lobbyist cronies. The Bush/Norton legacy will haunt the national parks for a long time.

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    A Quote by martin luther. Come now.

    I have been to the previously mentioned beaches and hate all the vehicles there. I think they should limit the amount of vehicles per day.

    We are caretakers of the earth but not at the expense of ourselves.

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    i ain't mistaken. after talking to several folks after getting back down this mornin if the shot red posted up was the time yousaid and what you say is right and i dont have no reason to doubt it then there were two diffrent times and foxs cause the shot red posted werent shot by me.

    ed

  • Man Drowns During Rafting Trip Through Grand Canyon National Park   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Amy,

    This group did launch on the 10th. The victim was 45-year-old Randall Johnson of Grand Junction, Colorado. That's all the additional information I have. Hopefully your friends are OK.

  • Like No Other Park in the System (I Hope)   6 years 4 weeks ago

    The park is not one continuous locale, but rather a collection of areas that stretch from northern San Mateo County to southern Marin County, and includes several areas of San Francisco.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    To Kurt,
    Thank you for the information.
    I believe that there is no need for anyone to carry a weapon in our national parks.
    Your response to 'Anonymous' was civil and level headed.
    I would really rather have 'Anonymous' and Tom (not verified) keep their guns unloaded and out of reach.
    Our current law is fine.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    tom,

    Many people have used bear spray during charges. Many people have used guns. If a bear is coming at you from 50 feet away at 35 mph what do you think your chances are of getting your gun out, aiming and shooting to kill? (Iif you miss you will definitely be mauled and possibly die, so you HAVE to kill it first shot and hope you can get off another shot WHILE he's mauling you.) You have 6 seconds or less and fear running through your system. Good luck. Now if you miss, which you probably will, the bear will be very angry, mauling probably intensified. If you play dead and the bear SEEMS to leave and you move he may come back to finish off the job. You lay, bleeding, in the wild, near a pissed off bear (but where?) and wait 30 minutes (?) an hour (?) before you crawl out HOPING he doesn't come back.
    Pull out bear spray from your hip holster and shoot slightly down in a sweeping motion and that bear will most PROBABLY be scared from the sound of the spray alone but if not get a good whiff, lung full, eye full and veer off. Instead coming back to maul he will be high tailing it, suffocating and trying to rub the stuff off. Time to SLOWLY back out of there. Actually standing upright.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    We eventually evolve.
    They are discussing a country at a time where fewer people were present.
    They are discussing this between men with male mentality. I have been held up by gun point. Being a female I know that if I had had this gun you so readily rely on that I would not have had the guts or any way to pull this gun out and get out of the situation alive.
    Stop relying on a document that needs justifiable readjusting.
    This "gun" issue is about allowing arms in National Parks and has been used to references for protection against wildlife. I hike ALONE in the parks every year for weeks on end, I don't need to have to worry about humans also or that I have to carry a gun when I don't want to and normally don't feel the need to. I don't want to see a bear stand up on his hind legs to get a better look and have some tourist freak out and shoot the bear.
    There is no need for guns in parks.
    Carry bear spray, not only does it work much better on bears but it also works very well on humans. No one gets permanently damaged in the meantime. The point is taken.
    People hang on to the consitution as if the world will remain the same. There are millions in our jail system because of gun misuse compared to the two or three when Adams was President. Population wasn't considered when the constitution was scribed. At least in my opinion it wasn't.

  • Man Drowns During Rafting Trip Through Grand Canyon National Park   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Our friends are on a trip that launched March 10th, which I believe is the same date as this gentleman's trip. Can you give us any more information? i.e. the trip leader? That would be enough info to let us know if this is our friend's trip. Our friends have a satellite phone with them, but they have been having a hard time connecting with us for more than 1-2 minutes. We only want to know our friends' fate, if you have any information! Thank you, sincerely, Crhis & Amy Steinke

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    whoever did this study is insane . theres no way i'd go up against a bear attacking with a bear spray. i would very much like to see a real attack be staved off by bearspray. a grizzly thats mad can run faster than a race horse for short distances . also you don't know when a bear might attack. they can be silent as can be . i carried a 12 ga bullpup loaded in my cruiser when on duty as park ranger and used bronze or copper solids. i never had to use it but if i had i would've . now you could turn a curious grizzly or possibly one thats acting up some but an already attacking grizzly i doubt that very much. i left the service because of lamebrained pencil pushers not knowing what the real job entailed. what can i say.

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Ya'll are simply mistaken. I learned about it the day it happened from a reg-neg member who was out there that day when it was shot, as part of a group meeting with representatives of the park. I don't know if they were on the Point, or simply at "the Point."
    I suggest you check your facts (and dates).

  • Battle Mounts Over Off-Road Vehicles at Cape Hatteras National Seashore   6 years 4 weeks ago

    For the fishermen who complain that it would be inconvenient to lug some tackle gear to the beach, over the sand:

    You driving right up to the water's edge to fish is as lame as bubba parking on the roadside to shoot deer from his truck.

    It's too bad Apophis is predicted to miss.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    Not about protection against bears? That's one of the issues the NRA has raised in pushing this topic, and one many previous comments have touched on.

    Beyond that, though, aren't we a "people of laws"? Or should we just be able to pick and choose which laws to obey based on whether we like that law or not?

    An interesting analysis of the 2nd Amendment can be found here.

    Here's a snippet:

    The attitude of Americans toward the military was much different in the 1790's than it is today. Standing armies were mistrusted, as they had been used as tools of oppression by the monarchs of Europe for centuries. In the war for independence, there had been a regular army, but much of the fighting had been done by the state militias, under the command of local officers. Aside from the war, militias were needed because attacks were relatively common, whether by bandits, Indians, and even by troops from other states.

    Today, the state militias have evolved into the National Guard in every state. These soldiers, while part-time, are professionally trained and armed by the government. No longer are regular, non-Guardsmen, expected to take up arms in defense of the state or the nation (though the US Code does still recognize the unorganized militia as an entity, and state laws vary on the subject [10 USC 311]).

    This is in great contrast to the way things were at the time of adoption of the 2nd Amendment. Many state constitutions had a right to bear arms for the purposes of the maintenance of the militia. Many had laws that required men of age to own a gun and supplies, including powder and bullets.

    That said, the issue on these pages is whether the current regulation, which allows you to take your gun into a national park as long as it's unloaded and not easily accessible, is reasonable.

  • Studies Show Bear Spray More Effective Than Guns Against Grizzlies   6 years 4 weeks ago

    This issue isn't about protection from bears. Why do people on this site want to confuse the issue. This is a constitutional issue. Everyone wants to debate on what the founding fathers meant by the second ammendment but no one wants to accept what the thought of the second ammendment and why they wanted it in there. Read this and tell me what there is to debate?

    *First, Thomas Jefferson: No Freeman shall ever be disbarred from the use of arms.
    *Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self-defense, John Adams.
    *The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed with Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, where the Government are afraid to trust their people with arms, James Madison.
    *Arms discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue if the law-abiding were deprived the use of private arms, Thomas Payne.
    *Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides from an unarmed man, may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man, Thomas Jefferson.
    *A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves. They include all men capable of bearing arms. To preserve liberty is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike how to use them, Richard Henry Lee.
    *The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms, Samuel Adams.
    *I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them, George Mason.

    Stop trying to teach an agenda contrary to the constitution just because you were taught that guns are bad and you look a news story and feel that this "agency" is your great affection for truth. Ask yourself, Why wasn't I taught these quotes in grade school? Why do we not discuss medical malpractice as the big killer it is? Why do we not outlaw french fries? Why are we ok with alcohol as a legal substance? How can we not see that freedoms are only enjoyed when a government respects it's people? When people are able to live how they want to live? How can government tell you when you can and can't protect your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

    How can you consider yourself a responsible journalist who has no bias, but repeatedly on your site you express your opinion about guns and then when the discussion reaches a point you're no longer comfortable with you'll end the discussion? I would have thought sensorship would be the last thing a journalist would every instigate.

  • Man Drowns During Rafting Trip Through Grand Canyon National Park   6 years 4 weeks ago

    How horribly sad! I went through the grand canyon on a trip of a life time with my entire family 2 years ago and it was truly amazing! I would recommend it still to anybody, despite this freak accident. The trip is not without risks, but then again neither is my morning commute on I-95, and the view on I-95 is nothing comparing to awe inspiring view from inside the canyon.