We created the National Park Trust because the problem of inholdings is throughout the park system. There are ways to deal with the land values of these unique properties. There just needs to be the will.
I hope that the readers who so often criticize or even condemn the Park Service for some of the decisions made by park management take the time to download and actually READ all of this report. Just the little side box in this Traveler article recounting removal of tons of human waste from potties at Scout's Landing should help them understand the challenges faced by mana
Jan 22nd - 16:04pm |
this is so sad and troubling. Zion and The Grand Canyon are my favorite parks In the whole United States. I hope they can come to some resolution. The first time I saw those red rocks and brilliant blue sky I was totally mezmerized.
Folks, this is not a forum to launch vitriolic attacks on individuals, and it's been way overdone here so we're going to shut down comments.
Jan 22nd - 11:05am |
I completly agree. I was one that worked for her during all of this. Yes, a lot more to the story...her performance was terrible and how she treated folks that worked for her was more than a disgrace. NPS should have documented her performance accuratly, which was very poor, and they should have reprimanded her based upon the investigation of all the park employees t
Jan 20th - 10:21am |
@Forest Lover - No, more like a Forest Supervisor. Some national forests like San Bernandino are incredibly complex with hundreds and hundreds of employees, some are like the somewhat-tiny Sam Houston National Forest where the total acreage and staff is smaller than any one district in San Bernandino. Just like there is a big difference between Sitka NHP versus Yellowstone NP.
Jan 20th - 02:36am |
A National Park Service Superintendent is equivalent to a Forest Service District Ranger, both are responsible for managing public land acres and employees that do the work.
Jan 19th - 18:01pm |
Another Sitka P...
"The only thing the National Park Service did wrong was to take so long to remove her from office."
I FULLY agree with this response.
In the Juneau Empire article from 2010, I'd like to point out this excerpt:
Chickens. They need to come out west and see what REAL snow looks like!
(On the other hand, I really don't want to go to the east or midwest to find out what a tornado or hurricane looks like.
I guess that means I'm a chicken, too.)
Jan 22nd - 10:36am |
"At Shenandoah National Park in Virginia, park operations were being suspended during the duration of the storm, and no search and rescue teams would be available, the park website said."
Oh, please. Either close the park or open it. Quit bluffing when you know full well that "search and rescue teams" will be available when called.
The more I study this, the more I can see some things that are awfully vague or downright confusing. For example, I just caught the last paragraph in Kurt's article in which he mentions Dugout Ranch:
Jan 22nd - 06:14am |
This is classic Mormon Extremism toward Public Lands:
Jan 21st - 21:58pm |
Thank you Traveler and mucho thanks Lee for your efforts here, I will try to keep an open mind, read more of the bill, here expert analysis of said. I am skeptical at this point, but do not want to be negative.
Not yet, Bob. I haven't had a chance to look at the website yet. But just noticed that Kurt (who I had the pleasure of meeting for the first time at the press conference) has added a map to the top of this article.
I attended the meeting at the Capitol this morning. Simply listening to Bishop and Chafetz, the whole thing sounded wonderful. Then some people started asking questions and Bishop responded with some attacks on "environmentalists." He specifically pointed a claim that "some of them have been using an old draft version of the bill" and that their concerns were not valid because
ecbuck-- I think you hit the nail on the head--- seems like people today really don't have a sense of personal responsibility. It's more like "It's all about me and what I want". Little consideration for others. Its a lack of respect for the land,the concept of the place and for other people. A sign of the times.
On the one hand, the name change is great, as the conspicuous appearance of these strange names, and the historic signage not matching the names in the brochures will call attention to a very relevant theme in national park and American history.
How many of those pages contain things that actually weaken regulation? Some in Congress have been working hard to eliminate regulation on their pet industries or corporations. Did anyone catch Frontline last night with it's expose' of health foods and supplements? Merely looking at the pile of paper proves nothing. Start reading, ec, and let us know what you find.
claims about Minuteman Missile top secrecy.
Already provided that Lee, as opposed to your failures to provide examples of DNC engaging in unethical or illegal activity. Do you really think those pages are removing regulations? If so, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
If the trade mark names are proven to belong to DNC it still is only worth what the market will bear. rmackie brings up a possibility that this was not transfered could be proven in court. All interesting. But you cannot just petition away someones ownership of a trademark.
Oh, please, EC. "Corporations are more heavily regulated today than they have ever been before." That's their spin, but it's not good history. Look at all of the crap the airlines have been pulling since the elimination of the Civil Aeronautics Board. Same with the railroads and the elimination of the Interstate Commerce Commission.
"Was" a time when they were heavily regulated? Corporations are more heavily regulated today than they ever have been before.
Jan 20th - 08:13am |
Changing the names was a smart move. It prevents DNC from making an argument in court that the parks and new concessionaire are illegally using the names startinbg 3/1. It also reduces the value of the names as a barganing chip for DNC. I don't think the name change will be in place forever and expect the NPS to evenually get the names back in a court settlement.
Jan 19th - 22:57pm |
Unfortunately Lee,I think it is more than a few. There was a time in this country when corporate entities where tightly regulated. Across most states ,they were prohibited from, among other things, making political contributions. That changed after the Civil War with the growth of railroad monopolies., industrialization, etc. and the wealth and power they obtained.
Unfortunately, there are more than just a few large corporations that have completely abandoned even a pretense of exercising ethical conduct or using honesty as their standard. But then again, I guess that's really nothing new.
EC has a point, many believe, and some state supreme courts have so stated, that the sole purpose of a corporation is to make a profit for its shareholders/stakeholders.
Unless you are a socialist or a communist, I can't see on what basis anyone could come to any other conclusion.
I would like to see a story about the native American rock art in the Parks, especially the least accessible. It's getting almost impossible to get info from NPS employees. It seems like their assumption is that if the locations are made too easy to obtain, We The People will over run the site or vandalize it.
Bear spray is great stuff, but it's a good idea to get a little training in using it. Distance, wind direction, bear escape options, presence of cubs, etc. all play a role in deciding when and how to employ pepper spray. When I was flying NPS aircraftI made it a policy to place bear spray in the floats.