Once again Rick, in his attempt to politicize the non-political, mis-characterizes the issue to make it seem more dire than it is. All this does is ask that the State fish and wildlife management agencies participate in the process. Are these State fish and wildlife management agencies ignorant or uncaring of the science? I doubt it.
Anyone out there serve at the site just north of Vamo on Little Sarasota Bay? (Between Gulf Gate and Osprey near the Oyster Bar Restaurant just north of what is now Pelican Cove?) Anyone out there serve at the Hawk site on top of the Mercury Outboards test center later the condo at the southern tip of Siesta Key? How about the Hawk site on top of the Hilton on Longboat?
If he'd killed because he hated wolves, it's unlikely he would have reported it himself. At least that's my take on the situation.
Jul 10th - 21:48pm |
i really do not hunt but i do fish and enjoy as much of the outdoors as i can ...one member of my family has a farm with cattle and such and I learn many thing s from him and other people. in my town we have a lot of coyotes and pass them on the road side every day...not once would anyone ever mistake that frail creature for being a wolf or even a german shepard.
Was there cell coverage at the site? Did the driver have a cell phone? Was there much traffic on that particular road that time of night? What was the weather? Where there other wolves nearby? Was the driver an 85 year old women? The point of the headline should have been the dead wolf, not that the driver went elsewhere to make the call and file the report as required by law.
What part of "Park rangers discovered the dead wolf lying in the road at 11:45 p.m. and later received a call from the driver" doesn't sound like there was no driver found at the scene? Kurt isn't a tabloid headline writer.
Why the sensationalized "hit and run driver" headline? If you have accurately outlined the reporting requirements, I believe the driver followed the letter and spirit of the law. Lot of gaps in your reporting to support a headline like that. Saying that a wolf was killed on a Yellowstone NP highway would have more accurately described the occurrence.
Kurt - see the comment on this thread after yours. In the "Recent Comments" widget it shows Harry's name but the post itself only says "anonymous". Real time the connection isn't too hard to make. After the fact the link is harder to make. Not complaining, just noting.
Jul 11th - 08:24am |
Great discussion and many wonderful comments. I hope Director Jarvis and his staff is reading these comments.
Folks, if you have an account, you're only signed in as "anonymous" if you post a comment without first logging into the system.
Jul 10th - 18:46pm |
Just returning from Yellowstone so missed a lot of comments. Catching up is a little difficult in the new format with even registered users being signed as anonymous. Nevertheless the most recent "anonymous" post seems to hit the nail on the head.
I'm a current Division Chief within the NPS. I hold the NPS and the National Park idea in high esteem. The reality on the ground is that staffing, resources, time and energy are increasing scarce within the parks.
Excellent comment, Ron.
But as I read these comments --- all of them --- every one of them contains some nuggets of truth. Truths that all contribute in some way to the mess we have built for ourselves.
"Spoken like a true democrat" - you say that like it's something to be ashamed of.
I was a republican, then an apolitical, then a democrat, and now consider myself a non-aligned progressive.
Jul 9th - 15:23pm |
"the so-called debt "crisis" is a myth that has been perpetuated by Wall Street and corporate elites who hate government and want to downsize it so they can make more money. "
LOL! Spoken like a true a democrat. Your leader said adding 4 trillion was unpatriotic and irresponsible but adding 8 trillion to debt is a myth. LOL!
Jul 9th - 14:23pm |
Congressional underfunding is the least persuasive justification for delisting I can imagine. It makes the very idea of designation meaningless if future legislatures can undo it through budget compromises.
Jul 9th - 13:12pm |
Thank you for your comments. I do not have a perfect solution but I do think we need to have this discussion. I gave most of my adult life to supporting the parks and the NPS and I want this wonderful legacy to continued into the future. There is nothing wrong with discussion and raising my concerns. I only want what is best for the parks
As others have mentioned, some fascinating discussion here, but I must say that I have to agree with those who are respectfully disagreeing with Alfred's rather aggressive comments. The commentary by Kellett, Rick Smith, Lee, and others more closely resembles my life experience and understanding.
Okay, Michael. Now I get it. You're drinking Paul Krugman's Kool Aid. He's an idiot, but I digress. Anyone can believe that money grows on trees. It doesn't. It is a reflection of a society's "energy," and our "energy"--and the world's--has been diluted beyond repair. Fine.
As a historian, Harry ought to know better. Who will be in charge of culling? Your Steamtown is my Pinnacles. And who is going to halt the steady growth of the System? The Congress? Hah! They will continue to add to the System based on pressures from local communities who see tourism as an economic driver.
This topic has produced some of the best Traveler comments I can remember in a long time.
The last two by Dr. Runte and Michael Kellet are excellent examples of the REAL PROBLEM because, although they seem to be at nearly opposite poles of the universe, BOTH of them are 100% correct.
"Of course the U.S. government has plenty of money." Seriously, that's the first I heard about it."Too much of it is being spent in the wrong places." Well, on that we might agree. How about the interest on our $18 trillion debt? Unfunded liabilities through the Baby Boom Generation total another $125 trillion--and change. That's right.
I'm enjoying your articles on a few of the trails in RMNP. Haven't been there since I was a child and don't remember much. We plan a trip in August with a photographer friend who used to live in Colorado and she put the hike to Dream Lake at dawn on the top of her list of places we must go!
Cedar Breaks is another of those "under the radar" gems that deserve a visit. If you plan to do any hiking, just pace yourself. With most locations in the park at an elevation of over 10,000 feet, this scenery will literally "take your breath away" :-)
Please call me at 907-441-1232 as soon as you start taking reservations for Feb 2016, I would love to visit the cabin with my wife, it has been on our list for years.
I believe that, if a proper appeal were made to our states sportsmen and hunting organizations, there would be many hunters who would be honored to serve their state and country by taking many of these animals. Of course, this form of hog control would require detailed organization and planning to ensure order and participant safety.
I can't resist reminding everyone of how many of their choices are railroad lodges--built in the grand old era of parkitecture, when America's railroads strove for greatness. But yes, I, too, will pick a favorite, which would be the North Rim's Grand Canyon Lodge. What an incredible building set down lovingly beside an incredible view.
Another good story Kurt on one of the last locations in the eastern United States that could qualify for federal wilderness designation. We're happy that NPS is willing to take another look at this issue - but what Mr. Reynolds is not acknowledging in his final comment is that - at one time or another - the entire preserve has been impacted by ORV use and trails.
Due to Federal single species management thrust upon all of South Florida below lake Okeechobee that benefits one species alone (panthers) many many other wildlife populations are plummeting as uncontrolled Apex as well as other predators eat the other animals down there.