I am appalled at this company's behavior. These are historic landmarks in one of our greatest national treasures. How could the NPS let a company control trademarks for a national park? Would we ever rename the White House, the Capitol, Lincoln Memorial or Washington Monument, the Grand Canyon?
Check? Just trademarked it, Lee. Pay me! Seriously, had I won Powerball this week, I would have funded The Traveler. Ah, well. All of us can dream, can't we? That is the proper way to see our national parks--as the best of the American Dream. We have all won the lottery with their beauty. Shame on those who ask for more.
Now you know why Donald Trump is rising in the polls. Americans are desperate to hear a president say again: "You're fired!" That as opposed to: "I'll look into it." EC, you're fired! Yosemite's place names are part of our cultural heritage, too. What next? A little ® or ™ besides every name in the land? The United States of America™? The Statue of Liberty™?
I've read about it, but I also did my own search of the USPTO trademark database. The only trademark registered before the sale of Yosemite Park & Curry Company to Delaware North was for "The Ahwahnee" (registration number 1529066) back in 1988.
Isn't ironic that an agency filled with lawyers, overseen by a government led by a bunch of lawyers, is afraid of a lawsuit and could not figure out a way to make these national treasures safe from vultures??
Jan 15th - 09:16am |
I can't fault DNC. They have a duty to their shareholders. The real fault lies in the incompetence of the NPS.
Jan 15th - 02:33am |
Leslie Knope wouldn't stand for these shenanigans.
Jan 15th - 00:57am |
I wonder what they want to call Asilomar next!
Jan 15th - 00:55am |
DNC did pretty much a horrible job in the winter providing food service in Yosemite Valley! No choice but pizza that made my family sick on a Thanksgiving weekend. DNC was a vendor (HA-HA no more) so how can they get away with messing over iconic monument names?
Jan 14th - 22:49pm |
Yes ,very silly. Its the park that counts ,not the name of buildings .
Jan 14th - 22:14pm |
It seems to me that any new concessionaire contract would have to include verbiage to strictly limit ownership of trademarks to the NPS. And that any concessionaire who wanted to use said trademarks would have to lease them from the NPS.
This is so funny. All those that espouse the wonders of the National Parks for the natural beauty and inherent qualities are going apolegtic over changing the names of man made edifices. As the Bard said. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The names of these buildings mean nothing - except that the NPS seems to be acknowledging they screwed up.
Greed and stupidity are alive and well in America. This is just plain dumb. Can we get a list of parks in which DNC holds contracts so we may avoid spending any money at their operations anywhere?
They need to have contracts in any parks cancelled as soon as possible.
Jan 14th - 19:43pm |
much as I want to see yosemite in the snow, I won't visit until after March 1, so that DNC can't profit on my visit. I've already had to give up on Asilomar, since DNC raised the prices there.
Jan 14th - 18:06pm |
Delaware North ...
This is Capitalism at its greedy worst. Who was the moron at the National Parks System who agreed to let these jackals in? This is a travesty!
Jan 14th - 16:53pm |
I don't even understand this. Why does the contract holder get the trademarks to these names in the first place?
Very interesting article from today's Salt Lake Tribune about one of the key players in this drama. But remember, there's no corruption in Utah politics. Nope. None at all.
we need to stand up against Delaware North. These names are part of the national heritage of the park. This is insane corporate greed. The replacement names are so white bread lame. Where's the honoring of native Americans??! Next up Home Depot Lodge? State Farm Falls?
I find the 500 foot altitude interesting. In other parks, the minimum is 1000 feet above any terrain within five miles. In addtition, bird strikes are more common at altitudes of about 800 feet or less. T'would be interesting to see the reasoning behind this.
Thoreau lived just out of town. His mother delivered a hot meal to him every Sunday,on foot, to Walden. He may have gone on a walk about in Maine, but he has been elevated far beyond his contributions to this world. The other falsehood in this is that Roxanne's scheme is all her land, it is not. It doesn't matter Quimby or Thoreau altruism is just hype and legend.
It's not just evaporation:"There’s also this: Lake Powell leaks like a sieve. As much as 123 billion gallons of water — 2.6 percent of the entire flow of the Colorado River — seeps into fissures in the porous sandstone underlying the lake and disappears each year."
So often it is forgotten that this brucellosis was originally brought here by imported cattle and is very prevelent in elk...which amazingly we never hear about that part. This whole bison thing would not even be an issue were it not for the whining of cattle ranchers who cry foul for any number of reasons all the while knowing full well that bison meat is much heathier than beef. Y
Remember to visit the Natchez Trace Wine Trail located off mile marker 391 of the Natchez Trace Parkway in Hampshire, TN. There are three wineries to visit and they are all located within just a few miles of each other. We would love to have you!
I'm caucasian, but ORVs are far from my version of "traditional to the hearitage of the anglo man". Frankly, again speaking as a white man, I'm embarrassed to be associated with your racist arguments.
As we know, Congress invited an enormity of problems in Big Cypress by calling it a "preserve." In that case, we can agree that traditional uses should be "consistent." No one should get special treatment.
Jan 13th - 08:28am |
I want our 1200 Miles of trails that was MANDATED by Congress. Yes the Congress of the United States of America. The 1200 miles of trails was cut to 400 miles by an illegal frivilous lawsuit against the NPS & BCY.Congress did not properly approve the reduction in trails!!!
NPT refers to "non-motorized trail miles" in Big C using finite numbers of miles which doesn't make sense due to the fact that every square foot of Big C can be hiked anytime of the day and night. Hiking is totally unlimited throughout the 729,000 acres of Big C. so to allude that there is some limit seems quite incorrect to this reader.
I'm not sure that all the otions for the Presidio were explored. Removing many of the buildings, keeping only some as examples of the architecture, might have been a possibility. Much of the area could have been returned to open space and native species restored. That would certainly have eliminated the maintenance costs of all those buildings.
And the soap opera continues.
At a certain point, after multiple rulings against you, further appeals appear to be an exercise in spite as much as any realistic hope for an optimal outcome.
Jan 12th - 12:30pm |
The full article is behind a paywall, but this didn't take long:
Former Park Supt. Miller Plans to Appeal Removal08 Jan 2016 23:20
By Sentinel Staff Mary Miller, who was removed as superintendent of Sitka National Historical Park [ ... ]
Having just moved to [the doorstep of] North Cascades National Park this last summer, that's probably where we're going to do most of our exploring this year.
Jan 12th - 19:38pm |
My husband and I are headed to Everglades, Dry Tortugas, Biscayne, Hawaii Volcanoes, Haleakala, Badlands, Wind Cave, Great Sand Dunes, Yosemite, Katmai, Denali, Crater Lake, Lassen, and Grand Tetons in 2016.
Jan 12th - 17:18pm |
Grand Canyon, Zion, Bryce Canyon, Yellowstone, Teton, Capitol Reef, Flaming Gorge NRA, Lee's Ferry NRA, Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Everglades
Jan 12th - 16:29pm |
Hunsband and I will be going to Rocky Mountain National Park in October. Hope to also visit Arches.
Jan 12th - 14:41pm |
Acadia NP this summer
Jan 12th - 12:53pm |
Spring trek is usually set around Grand Canyon Members Association weekend in May. Taking an extended trek to hit some on the West coast haven't been too. Current plan leaving from St.
Compare this to the NPS's approach to celebrating their centennial by jacking up entrance fees at nearly every park, imposing extra fees for backcountry access, and seeking to increase the price and reduce the benefits of annual and senior passes. I guess I know which system really wants me to visit and which one just wants me to stay away. Canada here I come!
Thanks for the background information, Kurt. It helps to clarify the access issues specific to Cape Hatteras. However, my concern re: ATV/ORV access on conservation lands, particularly national parks, goes far beyond the cape.