Yes, the only reason this glyph is known today is because the park's Museum Curator at the time, Susanna Pershern, found an old photo of it and made it known that this glyph had never been formally recorded by the park.
Here in the Smokies, local officials are concerned that the bears don't have enough to eat due to low mast production this year. Hunters are chomping at the bit to expand bear hunting priviledges for those counties adjacent to the National Park. Even though bears are legally protected from hunters and their dogs on National Park Lands, dogs don't read the park boundary signs and in
Subsistence hunting puts food on the tables and feeds families. I submit that the prior comment was from someone who has never been hungry.
Oct 25th - 11:00am |
Tradition is not a good excuse for environmentally destructive practices like hunting! We are in the 21st century, not prehistoric times. "Subsistence" killing is still killing, and destroys genetic diversity. It's high time that we grew up and respected other species.
One of many controversies in Utah has been the one centering around destruction of ancient sites by "pothunters." Their activities -- along with those of irresponsible ATV riders -- have led to restrictions on Federal lands that many people feel encroach on their "freedoms."
But EC, these are FEDERAL lands, not state lands. So if you "return" -- which, technically isn't the case -- what about U.S. residents elsewhere in the country who enjoyed the use of those lands. What are the benefits to them?
should a pollster try to assume what those are
They assumed what the negatives were and put them in the question. So yes, if they are going to do that they should put in the positives. In reality they shouldn't put in either.
How slanted are they? In Utah, some legislators think the state can do a better job of managing public lands, but how will they afford to do so? By selling off lands, opening them up for development, raising taxes, asking Congress to pass through the funding that now goes to federal land-management agencies to manage the lands?
Missed that link - thanks Kurt.
As I suspected, questions 24-26 were very slanted. They positioned the question as an all or none proposition and added what they perceived as negative implications (costs to the state) without espousing the positives. This is exactly why I take these kind of surveys with a grain of salt.
I don't have anything against the hunt if needed, but I'm not sure who are the advocates for the feeding?
Oct 23rd - 15:33pm |
Is the reason anti-hunters are trying so desperately to lower the elk population through starvation. They would sacrifice thousands of elk to stop the GTNP hunt.
Why should anyone look at what they put out as unbiased????Well, one could say that knife cuts two ways...That said, the paper does cite articles from the Journal of Wildlife Management, the Wyoming Outdoor Council, the Bureau of Land Management, the Bridger-Teton National Forest, The Wildlife Professional, as well as the USFWS and NPS.
Oct 23rd - 13:44pm |
Kurt you provide a link to a group who is openly doing whatever they can to stop the GTNP elk hunt. Why should anyone look at what they put out as unbiased????
Sounds like a matter of carrying capacity and development. That said, Yellowstone's bears once relied on garbage dumps. Once that practice ended the landscape wasn't littered with bear carcasses.As for possible solutions and impacts of closing the elk feeding grounds, the Wyoming Wildlife Advocates had some interesting ideas:
Oct 23rd - 11:19am |
The people who hate the Park Hunt will ALWAYS go directly to starving the elk to death/end feeding to stop the hunt. Because they KNOW that the hunt will end if the feeding does. They would rather see elk starve to death than be hunted where the elk have always been hunted.
Oct 23rd - 09:46am |
I always chuckle at the apocalyptic "they'll all starve to death" comments. There were large numbers of elk here before feeding began and there'll be large numbers of elk after feeding ends.
Ending artificial feeding of elk on the National Elk Refuge and the various WGFD feed grounds will result in a healthier elk herd, a healthier refuge, a healthier park and a healthier ecosystem.
I guess that depends. Are you a vegan for misguided dietary reasons or because you don't like what happens to the animals? If the latter, it clearly is relevant to your comment. And if that is the case, I fully respect (though don't agree with) your opinion.
I am a vegan. But I don't have the slightest idea how that could be relevant to my comment.
Oct 21st - 18:53pm |
Tahoma: YOU and others like you are doing all they can to stop this hunt, the feeding program, etc. When the already diminished numbers that migrate to or stick around all year in Jackson/GTNP proper COLLAPSE like the 80 drop off in the North Yellowstone elk herd, after the Invasive sub species wolf dumping.
I'm concerned about the safety of the non-hunting public
I would think the public is safer in the parks with the NPS oversight than the public in the national forest during hunting season. And BTW - I am not a hunter either.
(sorry for the repeat) the first one didn't show for 1/2 hr
Oct 21st - 16:07pm |
I'm concerned about the safety of the non-hunting public;
I would guess the safety of the the public in the parks - given the NPS oversight - is greater than that of the public in National Forests during hunting season. And if you nothing against hunters, why did you feel last years hunt was grotesque?
I'm not a vegan or a hunter, ec, and have nothing against either group. Some of my neighbors will be shooting elk nearby soon and I look forward to some fresh liver.I'm concerned about the safety of the non-hunting public; I think the few other NPS units at least exclude the public when ungulate culling is done.
I tend to agree the parks are too small to accommodate all of the demands that would be placed on them if access were made wide-open. That said, it's interesting to drive along Washington Highway 20 and see the empty trailheads for North Cascades National Park. I think there should be something like Mountain Bike Wednesday in such areas.
I love animals of all types but am particulary fond of Ferrets and Birds of Prey. I used to raise Ferrets in fact. The Marten is from the same family and looks very much like a ferret just much bigger. There are some animals that are like the comedians of the natural world like ferrets and otters, I can watch them and laugh at their antics for hours.
True. But shouldn't we at least be attempting to educate them and enlist their help in preserving these places? If we can do that successfully, maybe it will someday be easier to limit expansion of parking lots, roads, and other invasive facilities inside the parks.
It seems that we are no longer doing that.