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  • Traveler's View: National Park Service Logos Lack Creativity, Fail To Celebrate "America's Best Idea"   2 weeks 1 day ago

    No offense Kurt, I realize you probably haven't worked in the graphics and media world, but the acadia and rocky mountain logos wouldn't work very well in the print world where a logo has to be scaled out for usage on multiple different media materials, and then applied to countless souveniers. The logos are too busy and have too many colors. Try crushing those logos into a small space like what you see in the logo above that shows "National Park Foundation" and "National Park Service" where the logo is to the side and in a square less than 1/4 inch by 1/4 inch. Try crushing those onto a lapel pin that is only 1 inch by a 1/2 inch, or onto a mug that will only handle 4 colors on their printers. It would be completely unlegible in those formats and look like a blur.

    And Quillen, even if they spent 2 million on it, and turn around and sell 100 million worth of souviniers sold at 400 different sites, the parks will still reap benefits off of the initial investment.

    I'm not a fan of the blank arrowhead, but i'm sure they tried putting things in that space, and realized it would be better off blank, and they are trying to make the arrowhead the "icon". The arrowhead is an iconic symbol that does represent the parks. What's the alternatives? At best they may have fit "NPS" in the arrowhead, if you display it next to the words, as seen in the picture above. But then again what is more reconginzable to most people that have visited our parks, the arrowhead seen at most gate areas when you enter the park, or the words "NPS".

    They state in this very article that this doesn't replace the current traditional arrowhead with the buffalo, sequoia treeI and mountain backdrop. It's just a simplified version that is used when that logo doesn't work. And yes, when you scale that logo down, it doesn't look good since that logo itself is busy. If you are going to snipe, you better have some workable alternatives that make more sense.

  • Lassen Volcanic National Park Considering Changes To Bumpass Hell Access   2 weeks 1 day ago

    I would enjoy knowing what kind of bird is singing at 2:07 to the end of video.

  • Tracing The History Of National Park Service Emblems   2 weeks 1 day ago

    Bob, are you sure George Hartzog wanted the triangles and cannon balls. As I remember it, it was Richard Nixon who wanted to "modernize" the entire government. Part of that campaign was to redesign the emblems of virtually all Federal agencies. I was under the impression that Hartzog tried hard to kill the triangles. In any event, down in the ranks, there was almost open rebellion. This emblem and the accompanying redesign of the Interior Department's emblem died a painful death not too long afterward.

    I was really amused about fifteen years ago when I visited Navajo National Monument and noticed the cannon balls and triangles pasted on their recycling cans. I asked at the VC and learned that someone had found the emblem in some old files and thought they were an old version of the current recycle image found today on those blue garbage cans. Those young puppies had never heard of Nixon's follies and thought the whole story was a real hoot.

    At the same time, Nixon tried to "modernize" the unforms of the guards at the White House. They looked like something out of a Gilbert and Sullivan musical. There was nearly an explosion at the White House. That didn't last very long either.

  • Traveler's View: National Park Service Logos Lack Creativity, Fail To Celebrate "America's Best Idea"   2 weeks 1 day ago

    Spot on, Kurt. Those comments about the logo are eerily similar to the balderdash heard back in 1969 when Nixon tried to modernize the Arrowhead.

  • Traveler's View: National Park Service Logos Lack Creativity, Fail To Celebrate "America's Best Idea"   2 weeks 1 day ago

    It is bland and empty. I want to know how much of our taxpaying money was spent with this ad firm. This is a classic example of why folks should not hand over money to the NPS. They are striving to entice Millenials into the parks and at the same time are raising fees to enter parks and dropping visitation in the process. But they are using fee monies on stupid, empty designs? This is Jarvis NPS and a perfect example of bureacratic logic. Perhaps his brother is now a lobbyist for the ad agency, who knows.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 2 days ago

    Geez Beachdumb give it a rest. There is nothing in any legislation other than the new ORV rule that sanctions ORV use in CHNS. Have all the recreation you want the old fashion way by Shank's mare.

  • Tri-Park Pass Lets You Enjoy Three Hawaiian National Park Gems   2 weeks 2 days ago

    EC, check out the stuff in the Kipahulu rainforest area.

  • The Unusual Story Behind Death Valley National Park's Popular Zabriskie Point   2 weeks 2 days ago

    Yeah, Jim. But isn't that true about almost any subject? I want to try to get back to DEVA perhaps in February or so. It's an incredible place.

  • The Unusual Story Behind Death Valley National Park's Popular Zabriskie Point   2 weeks 2 days ago

    Thanks, Lee. I found the background for the overlook, and the park, to be really interesting once I started researching the story.

  • The Unusual Story Behind Death Valley National Park's Popular Zabriskie Point   2 weeks 2 days ago

    Fascinating. Thank you, Jim.

  • Tri-Park Pass Lets You Enjoy Three Hawaiian National Park Gems   2 weeks 2 days ago

    Any recomendations for a good 1/2 day hike in Haleakaka?

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Seems like there's little riding involved, just beating the horse continually, even after it's dead. Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Rick--It's because it's the only horse they know how to ride.

    Rick

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    This is the point in a wandering 'discussion' where I usually go back to the top and realize: "Hmmm. Sand replenishment at Golden Gate. So why are people riding their own personal favorite hobby-horse?"

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    August, 1937: "Act of Congress authorizes establishment of Cape Hatteras National Seashore on North Carolina’s Outer Banks. The envisioned park is to stretch from the Virginia state line to Hatteras Inlet, some 62,000 acres. Its purpose is to preserve the area’s “primitive wilderness” and to provide recreational access to the general public"

    June, 1940: "Congress amends Cape Hatteras National Seashore authorizing legislation to permit hunting later defined in relationship to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 to mean “waterfowl" hunting. “Recreational Area” also added to title to help emphasize the “recreational" orientation of the proposed seashore."

    http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/caha/caha_ah.pdf

    Very interesting reading... Note in the timeline that there have been OHV issues since 1972... Oh, and sand has been trucked in for years for erosion control.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Thank you Kurt.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    I think attempting to create and preserve wilderness characteristics at Cape Hatterass and Cape Lookout is starting to occur. When they started creating pedestrian only zones in these areas, and keeping people away from nests during the nesting to fledgling period that to me signals that progress is being made. But you can see from some of the screaming minority that they don't want that part of the legislation enacted. They want it to be a National Recreation Area, which in my opinion is the lowest type of NPS managed system on the NPS totem. And then you have people like Beach hoping to see the Department of Interior eliminated entirely (a tea party agenda), and you can see what they ultimately want - privitization where the beaches are subdivided and developed. How is that any better? It's not, unless you are one of the owners of the beach property, and seriously there are very few spots on the East Coast where you can find large stretches of uninterupted coast line. Maybe beachdumb, just needs to tuck his tail and move to one of those privatized areas. Heck there's thousands of miles of coast already like that, instead of complaining about the last 50 or so miles at CHS where it is protected from such development. Finally, Beachdumb's rhetoric is equivalent to calling Grand Teton or the Grand Cayon a National Monument, instead of a National Park. Good luck with that.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Lee, for what it's worth, there was a time when the seashore officially carried the "Recreation Area" tag. You can look it up in the administrative history. It's been some time since I researched the matter.

    Regardless, those two words don't change the Park Service's managerial obligations.

    And also, for what it's worth, the enabling legislation also specified that areas of the seashore be preserved as primitive wilderness, and that never quite happened.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    First, will you cite the source of that information you posted above, Beach? For all we can tell, it may have come from some propaganda machine that has little regard for truthfulness. At this point, we have no way of knowing.

    Second, your continual insults of anyone who disagrees with you are very tiresome and inappropriate. It begs the question as to just exactly who belongs in that "low IQ crowd" and doesn't do much to improve your credibility. It requires much less intelligence to fling insults than it does to produce well reasoned arguments.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Maybe when the liberal pansies are voted out in November we can direct the NPS to use the real name of CHNSRA, so that the low IQ crowd does not forget it's intended purpose.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 3 days ago

    Maybe they should just combine cape lookout with cape hatteras and upgrade it to Outer Banks National Park. Then after the teabaggin' congress is flushed in 2014, they can get to work on making most of the National Park upgrade wilderness. As for GGNRA, a recreational area usually implies it is meant mostly for recreation. A National Seashore means that wilderness and wildlife and the natural environment take precedence. Although, to really meet National Park standards they would probably need to make a marine sanctuary to include in it. Since a National Seashore only protects mostly the coastline. Compared to Biscayne and Dry Tortugas that protect not only coastline, but shoals, barrier islands, and immense expanses of coral reefs. Hence, why it's a National Park, and CHNS and CLNS are just National Seashores.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 4 days ago

    The full name of the “Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area” is historically accurate and serves to remind us today of the unique recreational heritage of the first national seashore. The founding pioneers called it by this name at the official dedication ceremony. Preserving this name will help future generations understand the history, tradition and recreational purpose of the “Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.” A study of history reveals the importance of including the words “Recreational Area” today.  June 29, 1940, Congress amends the enabling legislation and the words “Recreational Area” are added to further emphasize the recreational nature of the seashore as a destination for beachgoers and fishermen.  On May 10, 1954, the National Park Service gave administrative permission for the staff to use the shorter name “Cape Hatteras National Seashore” in all but the most formal memoranda and legal documents in place of the more cumbersome “Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.” This administrative short cut created a nickname, but never changed the official name.  At the official dedication ceremony on April 24, 1958, representatives of both the Department of Interior and the National Park Service repeatedly referred to it as the “Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area.”  Although the full name with the words “Recreational Area” subsequently fell from use by the Department of Interior and the National Park Service, it was never officially changed by Congress.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 4 days ago

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just did some double-checking and found the name of the place to be CAPE HATTERAS NATIONAL SEASHORE.

    Where does that Recreational Area tag come from?

    Isn't it a bit of hypocrisy to be demanding honesty from the NPS and then try something like this? Makes it kind of hard to believe other things one might try to claim.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 4 days ago

    A good example of the difficulties and confusion that sometimes arise as a result of the multitude of types of areas the NPS has to manage (and the sometimes convulated names assigned to them). The old tale about the group of blind men trying to describe an elephant comes very much into play in many of these discussions.

  • Sand Replenishment Work Coming To Golden Gate National Recreation Area   2 weeks 4 days ago

    Really, is that different than a National Seashore Recreational Area? Like Cape Hatteras National Seashore Recreational Area?

    Sorry Hippocrates, autocorrect, I meant hypocrites. :-)