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Is Global Climate Change A Threat to National Parks? Another Response

Jun 25th - 13:07pm | beachdumb

Rick, what evidence?

Jun 25th - 12:36pm | Rick B.

Sorry, dumb, but every schoolchild here in Alaska sees evidence of global warming daily all around them. Sorry about yours.

Jun 25th - 11:13am | Alfred Runte

Years ago, a magnificent exhibit on the world's rainforests toured the country. I happened to see it in Cleveland after speaking at Cuyahoga Valley National Recreation Area. Using an amazing time-lapse map, the exhibit showed the continuing disappearance of the rainforests, with a countdown to 2050. By then, the exhibit estimated, all of the rainforests would be gone.

Jun 25th - 09:52am | Lee Dalton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Goddard

Jun 25th - 06:30am | beachdumb

No Schoolchild Has Seen Any Global Warming Every public schoolchild has been exposed to massive amounts of global warming propaganda. But none have experienced any global warming. Both sets of satellite data show no warming for nearly 19 years.

Jun 24th - 23:00pm | Lee Dalton

Just today the National Research Council of Patagonia released a definitive study that proves beyond any doubt that the REAL cause of Global Warming is friction between the believers and deniers. It's simple physics and accounts for at least a 5 degree increase in both air and ocean temperatures every year.

Jun 24th - 21:30pm | rmackie

Agree with Lee, thanks d-2

Jun 24th - 21:03pm | ecbuck

"The colored temperature lines are the modeled estimates " Your "facts" are "modeled estimates". In other words they were made up. But hey, the fabrications support your beliefs so I guess that makes them "facts".

Jun 24th - 20:53pm | Anonymous

"The colored temperature lines are the modeled estimates " Rick, your "facts" are "modeled estimates". In other words, they are made up.

Jun 24th - 20:33pm | beachdumb

Hey Kurt, is the rich editor not available anymore? HTML is not interpreted anymore or is it because I'm on a detected mobile device?

Jun 24th - 20:24pm | Alfred Runte

Hold on just a minute. Does this graph really mean to suggest that deforestation is the difference between "lighter" and "darker" areas? I rather thought deforestation to be the difference between the absorption and non-absorption of CO2. If we cut down the trees, we lose the carbon sink.

Jun 24th - 19:45pm | ecbuck

Facts Rick? Perhaps you can explain how the measurements were created. But then how they were created isn't important to you because facts are never important to the "believers" .

Jun 24th - 19:39pm | Rick B.

Thanks, Owen. Facts never convince the deniers, sadly.

Jun 24th - 19:35pm | beachdumb

In the 1990 IPCC report, the Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than the late 20th century. https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/fartemperature.jpg But the truth doesn't fit tye political agenda...

Jun 24th - 18:45pm | ecbuck

Lee or Owen, Perhaps you can explain how they isolated the influence of the axis, solar or volcanoes every year since 1880? (Hint - they made the numbers up)

Jun 24th - 17:34pm | Lee Dalton

Owen, that graphic is terrific! Thanks for finding it.

Jun 24th - 13:57pm | Owen Hoffman

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/ An interesting graphical comparion of various factors that might affect global warming

Family of Man Killed By Mountain Goat in Olympic National Park Sues National Park Service

Jun 25th - 10:34am | what

I thought it was illegal to carry guns, even licensed ones, into State Parks.

Agreement Reached To Reduce Pollution Impacting National Parks In The Southwest

Jun 25th - 09:17am | Lee Dalton

Good news and long overdue.

Reader Participation Day: Should BASE Jumping Be Legal In National Parks

Jun 25th - 08:43am | ecbuck

"why should the rest of us have to pay rangers to deal with their mess?" Agreed - any why should the rest of us have to pay for the mess from fallen rock climbers, drowned rafters, lost hikers?

Jun 24th - 22:32pm | Max A. Million

If they are willing to post a bond of say $100,000 and take out a permit, let 'em jump. If they have a successful trip, they can have their money back. If not, the government can pay morticians to scoop up the remains and clean up the site. Until then, why should the rest of us have to pay rangers to deal with their mess?

Jun 24th - 18:36pm | ecbuck

"Deaths per attempt is the better statistic"

Jun 24th - 18:18pm | NormalReactionS...

So, don't do your dangerous activities near me. I can avoid your rock climbing and rafting areas. Someone falling on my head is not under my control. Your hazard guess is a classic simpleton argument meant to sway unintelligent people that don't know statistics. Deaths per attempt is the better statistic, not a pure count.

Jun 24th - 16:54pm | ecbuck

Very reasonable Wild. In other words, treat it just like rock climbing and rafting.

Jun 24th - 16:35pm | wild places

Require a permit and limit the numbers and places. Increase the penalty for breaking the law and work with the base jumpers so it becomes self policing. And while I am generally opposed to charging for SAR efforts I would have as part of the deal make sure the jumpers fund the cost of the inevitable recoveries.

Jun 24th - 14:01pm | ecbuck

"BASE jumping is much more dangerous than the two other activities you mention." So what? I would hazard a guess that there have been far more fatalities from rock climbing and rafting than from base jumping. Besides how are we to decide how dangerous an activity someone can engage in. Seems like that is a personal decision.

Jun 24th - 13:45pm | NormalReactionS...

BASE jumping is much more dangerous than the two other activities you mention. To highlight one aspect, the landing area after deploying the parachute is unknown and could be into a sensitive area. Another aspect, the landing area, if reached before deploying the parachute, is unavailable to others until after the coroner is done with clean-up.

Jun 24th - 12:57pm | ecbuck

So Anon -we outlaw rock climbing, rafting, peak bagging? These are all activities that would appear to be for enjoyment for their own sake. Heck by your definitions it would seem fishing wouldn't be a legitimate use of the park.

Jun 24th - 12:28pm | Rick B.

Save it all for a one-day Challenge Darwin Day. You could even do a tasting - a little taste of each experience. Over here the base jumping, over there the rattlesnake wrestling, and in this corner is the Russian Roulette. Everybody signs the same liability releases, the herd gets thinned a bit, and clean-up is all over within a day.

Jun 24th - 12:24pm | Jonathan Davidar

In August 1916, President Woodrow Wilson signed an act creating the National Park Service.

Jun 24th - 11:59am | Bill Borrie

Is base-jumping legal? According to the Organic Act of the NPS, it may not be. The Sullivan decision (District Court ruling regarding snowmobiles, Sept 15, 2008) includes the following judicial opinion: “While it is true that “enjoyment” is also a fundamental purpose of the parks, enjoyment is qualified in the Organic Act in a way that conservation is not.

Jun 24th - 10:35am | ecbuck

Why single out base jumping? Why is it any more a "spectacle" or any less appropriate than rock climbing in Zion, or white water rafting in the Grand Canyon or Dinosaur?

Jun 24th - 08:03am | Lee Dalton

Absolutely YES!

Jun 24th - 06:28am | NormalReactionS...

Yes, as a regular day-to-day legal activity, BASE jumping should be banned in the parks. Is it a spectacle that takes away from most visitors experience. That said, there could be special days or events to allow BASE jumping.

Great Smoky Mountains National Park Biologists Kill Wrong Bear In Effort To Catch One That Attacked Backpacker

Jun 24th - 14:11pm | Rick B.

And you have objective links to document who the 'they' were and what the 'poison' was? The whens, all that?

Jun 24th - 13:29pm | SmokiesBackpacker

This is the Smokies modus operandi. Several years ago they poisoned many of the streams in efforts to kill off the rainbow trout and reintroduce brookies. Some genius forgot to deal with the tributaries so the whole effort was a wasted taxpayer boondogle, not to mention all the poison in the streams that were closed indefinitely. NPS meddling. It is never ending.

Jun 24th - 11:27am | ecbuck

And you can be assured those packs had smellables or lingering smells.

Jun 24th - 09:48am | Jimmy Smythe

Bears have become accustomed to a bag or pack being a source of food. A few of the Park's shelters have bears that are notorious for taking packs because they have associated packs with food.

Jun 24th - 09:29am | ecbuck

Only if he had a Snickers bar in his pocket. Bears aren't attracted to the look of a food bag, they are attracted to the smell. Seems like the "biologists" were a little hasty, first in shooting bear 1 and then euthanizing the second.

Jun 24th - 08:32am | djrmar

Just a thought, could someone in a hammock, look like a hanging food bag to a bear?

Your Yosemite, A Threatened Public Treasure

Jun 24th - 13:07pm | rmackie

Traveler, I just received an advanced copy of "YOUR YOSEMITE, A Threatened Public Treasure", by Bob Binnewies. I think your brief summary of this book has badly missed the marked. Bob Binnewies has a resume that is much more than a top flight assignment as Yosemite National Park Superintendent.

Jun 24th - 13:07pm | rmackie

Traveler, I just received an advanced copy of "YOUR YOSEMITE, A Threatened Public Treasure", by Bob Binnewies. I think your brief summary of this book has badly missed the marked. Bob Binnewies has a resume that is much more than a top flight assignment as Yosemite National Park Superintendent.

Wild Horses in a Georgia Wilderness? Cumberland Island National Seashore Completes Annual Count

Jun 24th - 08:33am | Valerie

I have not been to Cumberland Island as if yet. I didn't even know that it exists. However I am planning on coming this summer to see these beautiful horses. I wish stupid people would leave these horses alone. This country would not be the same without them. They are in their natural habitat.

Photographing National Parks: A Guide For Scouting And Shooting America's Most Cherished Lands

Jun 23rd - 19:13pm | Rebecca Latson ...

I thought I replied awhile ago, but apparently not. Anyway, my bad, Mr. Luong. Thank you for keeping me an honest woman.  I was exaggerating to make a point.  I used search terms on Amazon such as "photography" and "national parks" and did pull up thousands of publications dealing with photography and national parks.

Jun 23rd - 14:17pm | QT Luong

The reviewer makes it sound like there are already tons of books about photographing the national parks. There are books about the national parks that feature photography (of course). There are quite a few books (and e-books) about photographing a particular national park. There are books about photographing a particular geographic area, which happen to include some national parks.

Jun 23rd - 13:23pm | FRANCES THOMPSON

I am so eager to own a copy of this new publication as soon as it is available in August 2015.

Cape Hatteras National Seashore To Adjust Wildlife Boundaries

Jun 23rd - 18:05pm | beachdumb

Buxton, why weren't these possibilities documented before?

Jun 23rd - 18:02pm | beachdumb

The staff didn't cave, they got to use common sense and reasonableness. No one has or will drive on the dunes, it's never been allowed. ORV access is different here, meant to get families and beach gear to remote areas.

Plane Makes Emergency Landing On Beach At Lake Mead National Recreation Area

Jun 23rd - 11:30am | Jim Burnett

Wild places - The site has undergone some major changes in the past week or so. There have been problems posting comments, so one this is a test :-) Kurt has his tech team working on this. One big change - the most recent comment on a thread will be on "top" of the "stack"  of those posted, so you don't have to scroll down through a long series of posts to see the latest ones.

Jun 23rd - 10:59am | wild places

Is the web site experiencing problems or modifying the format? Appearance is a little different and comments were not working. Just checking to see if it's my computer or something at NPT.

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