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Guns in the Parks: A Bad Idea

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    Senator George Allen of Virginia, you might say, is leaving Congress with his guns a-blazing.
    The Republican, who was ousted by Democrat Jim Webb, evidently has introduced legislation that would allow gun owners to bring their weapons into national parks, as long as the states the parks are located in don't prohibit the practice.
    Mike Kinsey, writing for Ohioans For Concealed Carry, says, "The arbitrary prohibition of your right to self-defense in a National Park needs to end."
    "Your life is not worth less while visiting one of our country’s beautiful parks than it is anywhere else you may be," argues Kinsey. "Personally, I believe that lonely wilderness trails may be one of the places that I would most want to have my self-defense firearm."
    Great. That's all we need, a backcountry full of pistol-packing hikers ready to take you on. This guy seems a little over the edge to me.
    "...any location that is known to be frequented by tourists would probably be very attractive to criminals," he goes on. "Tourists are generally carrying a lot of money and are unfamiliar with their surroundings. I am certainly not a criminal mastermind. If I can see that this environment makes one more vulnerable to violent attack, I am certain those with less scruples have realized it as well."
    Gee, Mike, we seem to have made it into the 21st Century without a spate of backcountry holdups (although there were a handful of stagecoach holdups back in the early 1900s in Yellowstone).
    Do we really want to legalize toting guns around in national parks? Frankly, I'd feel safer in the backcountry knowing that guns are prohibited rather than worrying that the next person I encounter might be packing heat.

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I read somewhere that our founding fathers wrote into our Constitution 'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.' Duh. Why on earth would they amend our Constitution with something that says that? Seems clear to me that 'The people' are what might make up a Melitia if it should be required. 'The people' would be pretty harmless if 'Arms' only meant those things that protrude from our shoulders; which is what too many politicians expect 'The people' to use to protect themselves from any attacker. Again, duh. Anti-protectionist!-don’t you think it makes sense to allow all law abiding ‘free’ citizens to protect themselves if they fear for their life if they were to face an attacker that is holding a deadly weapon. If you were with ‘the’ person who is dearest to you and you were threatened with death, what would you want to do? Would you be able to talk your way out of the altercation or would you rather have a weapon (a gun) that could save their life? Sticks and stones might break their bones, but words will never hurt them? Personally, I’d rather carry a legal gun than ‘sticks and stones’ to hurt them. Please don't infringe my Constitutional right! I am a member of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. The word you should catch is ‘Defense’. That is all I ask for. Allow me to defend myself!

Yes, paranoia is alive and well in the National Parks. Mixed with a little booze and a touch of domestic violence because your wife BBQ the steak wrong, or somebody accidently takes your camping spot by mistake... you just whip out your little old permit pistol...and settle business! Yes, the way the good old boy's like to settle it...the NRA way! Actually, I like too think the NRA stands for: NUTS RUN AMUCK, also known as the National Rifle Association. Sorry, paranoia breeds paranoia! You want better police protection in the parks, then let's get Congress to do it's job right ( for a change) and start funding the National Parks properly...and not on the cheap!!

Is this dumbass above the only one who agrees with the author? You might want to think twice about sharing an opinion with such a bigoted fool.

This blog certainly supports the existance of tourons. (tourist/morons) Amazingly even though all these people carry their firearms for their protection it is dificult to find any writings describing the effective defense against a violent crime by these heroes. It must be because the conservative press refuses to write about it....yeah right. We also ignore the statistics showing how you are 7 times more likely to shoot a family member by accident than to incapacitate a common criminal. These accidents are committed by permitted, legal weapons. Do you think that the horrific numbers of wild animal attacks will be reduced with armed visitors. Perhaps the woman killed by a Black Bear in the Smokies would still be alive if she had been armed. Incidently she is the only death EVER attributed to a Black Bear in a National Park. Of course since you are so well protected you won't have to worry about food storage and stupid stuff like that either. The good news is that macho folks that talk tough are rarely the type who venture more than a hundred yards from their car in the parks anyway. This is not an issue of the right to bear arms...this is an issue of you are a visitor in Natures house....show some respect. I am not against gun ownership unless you are stupid. I am retired military and a staunch conservative you can have all the guns you want. Just don't bring them to my house or my Parks.

To "some name of other" (another faceless soul). Look! the NRA is simply playing it's hand to help promote more hysteria and paranoia with it's fear campaign... by provoking people like you to do their name calling, and to distort the real facts what their real agenda is all about...to sell more guns!! If you really read between the lines what "some of name other" has expressed in his garbled comments, it clearly shows the mentality of a NRA member... or close to it. Show some class!

Parkaholic is obviously quite knowledgeable of anti-gun propaganda regarding the efficacy of firearms for personal protection. Unfortunately he comes up way short of any truth. Kellerman's (you know him, right?)"research" has long been discredited. Folks with firearms actually _save_ lives. Macho gun haters talking trash are always amusing but grossly uninformed. Do your research first - at a reputable governmental statistics location before you do yourself a disservice and repeat the bogus quackery of the Brady Bunch. Perhaps the women raped and murdered on Skyline Drive in Shenandoah would be alive to dispute your vacuous claims if their rights weren't abrogated by bureaucratic regulatory prohibition. I'm not against the First Amendment unless YOU'RE stupid. It's my park, my life and my rights. Gun control does not work. Fact.

Mr. Povich, in all do respect, may I submit to you, look who's in the White House! Mr. Bush and can't shoot straight Dickie Bird Cheney...the good old boy's representatives of the NRA! You say that "firearms actually save lives" If that's true, then why does the United States have the highest homicide rate (for industralized nation) in the world ...outside of Bush's Bagdad fiasco? You can have your little six shell pea shooter, but just keep it out the park! I don't think my local police dept. has bogus facts what causes these high homicide rates. Give me another excuse?

Snowbird: "look who's in the White House! Mr. Bush and can't shoot straight Dickie Bird Cheney...the good old boy's representatives of the NRA!" That's informative and relevant to the discussion. To be expected. Snowbird: "You say that 'firearms actually save lives' If that's true, then why does the United States have the highest homicide rate (for industralized nation) in the world ...outside of Bush's Bagdad fiasco? Since you're either too lazy ir dishonest to cite valid stats I will" there were approximately 16,000 "homicides" (that's the official term) as of 2004. Of that total, approximately 75% were committed by criminals against criminals. The remainder were legitimate self-defense, law enforcement and undetermined shootings. Still don't believe me? Go to the CDC. Your LEO buddies aren't helping you here. Cars kill more people every year. As for guns saving lives, check Prof. John Lott's research. You might also want to read Don Kates and Gary Kleck's research. You'll find that guns are used more than a million times (low-balling the numbers her each year by _LAW ABIDING CITIZENS_ to prevent criminal attack or crime. Snowbird: "You can have your little six shell pea shooter, but just keep it out the park!" It's always interesting to see how anti-gun people are able to do little else than engage in silliness when they're devoid of valid information. Snowbird: "I don't think my local police dept. has bogus facts what causes these high homicide rates." Yup, they do. As I said, look 'em up yourself Snowbird: "Give me another excuse?" I'll give you another chance. Try again with legitimate information.

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