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Guest Column: The Keystone XL Pipelines And Coal Hollow Mines Of America

Nov 15th - 08:45am | justinh

"Please show me where skeptics have hidden evidence and banded together to suppress the voices of others." The sentence doesn't make any sense.  How would skeptics "hide evidence"?  Evidence of what?  Their skepticism?  Evidence of climate change?--I certainly can't say they've hidden evidence of this.

Nov 15th - 08:30am | Anonymous

Don't know about the skeptics banding together but those that are tempted by profit from Climate Change Politics one way or another, have and use the very typical personal slurs trying to discredit the opposition voice.  Science has been co-opted by many.  Where do the non-agenda based scientists hang out?  They probably lay low, afraid of losing their funding.  

Nov 15th - 08:17am | Anonymous

No, ecbuck, as anyone can see who reads the article you linked to, Professor Curry never uses the words "misuse" and disguise."  Those of the words of the article's author, not hers.  Which is why HER words are directly presented in The Boston Herald article I quoted above; it was her oppotunity to debunk the story you cite.

Nov 15th - 08:16am | ecbuck

Justin - Please show me where skeptics have hidden evidence and banded together to suppress the voices of others.

Nov 15th - 07:55am | justinh

I know you "don't see" it, ecbuck.  That's a mark of ideology.  Which means there's nowhere for this conversation to go.

Nov 14th - 20:45pm | ecbuck

Anon - Sorry, I stand correct "withheld" wasn't the right word.  "Misused" , "disguised" "does not end the debate" Those were the words of Curry.

Nov 14th - 19:17pm | Anonymous

"some important information was withheld causing other major participants in the study to protest"--Not true.  In the article you posted, ecbuck, this quote refers to Judith Curry.  But she herself debunks it in The Boston Herald:

Nov 14th - 18:40pm | A Phoenix Rising

Polarized indeed. Only a symptom. Will anyone stop for 5 seconds trying to come uppin' eachother. Leadership at so many levels is lacking. On this particular subject - having/needing fuel/energy - for what? When will we examine our needs from a thoughtful and responsible perspective. Smaller carbon footprint - What is it's value proposition to this dilemma.

Nov 14th - 18:37pm | justinh

ecbuck,   Ugh.  You're missing the point of my post.  Take another look at what I wrote.

Nov 14th - 17:36pm | ecbuck

Actually Justin, the study proves no such thing.  While it confirms a rise in temperature, it does not identify the cause of that rise.  In fact, that study was released prematurely and without peer review and some important information was withheld causing other major participants in the study to protest.   The withheld data showed that, despite substantial increases in CO2 emmissions, tempera

Nov 14th - 14:25pm | justinh

"The voice of reason will look for middle gruond on these issues." I agree, of course.  It's just pretty tough sometimes to locate that middle ground when extremism has a way of creeping in to define the extremes.

Nov 14th - 13:04pm | See the Parks

This article is about caol mining near Bryce and I won't turn it into an  global warming debate. there is plenty of outside evidence from scientists to disprove man-made global warming, if you are willing to entertain oposing voices. Sadly, the DOE and other agencies have systemitally silenced those voices.

Nov 14th - 13:03pm | ecbuck

So Lee - do you have any evidence there was a quid pro quo?  The Governor has denied he told regulators to fast track the project and has indicated he did not know the contribution had been made.  Do you have evidence he was lying?  Like I said unsubstantiated accusations and meaningless trifflings.  

Nov 14th - 12:54pm | justinh

See the Parks, One example of the "irony" is when you say "Global warming garbage (junk science constantly being disproved)."

Nov 14th - 12:46pm | Lee Dalton

Add to all this the widely reported and much criticized story that Utah's Republican Governor Gary Herbert "fast tracked" state approval of the mining company's application last year. This came only a few days after Herbert reportedly received a reported $10,000 campaign donation from the company and at about the same time another scandal

Nov 14th - 12:11pm | See the Parks

Anonymous  - re: polarization - I guess you don't like my call for finding mutually beneficial solutions and compormise.  Your resoponse typifies the far left. ignore calls for compromise and solution to the befefit of your agenda alone.

Nov 14th - 12:07pm | Anonymous

I read your post, Anon, then read this question from a CNN Reporter:  

Nov 14th - 11:07am | Anonymous

"Polarization has got to stop." Given the rest of See the Parks' post, the irony!

Nov 14th - 10:57am | Anonymous

I don't know if any of you caught the image of an endangered Black Rhino being airlifted to a sanctuary because of poaching and the dollar value put on their body parts.  I continue to get reminded of the repercussions of a distressed economy.

Nov 14th - 10:21am | David Crowl

Keystone XL thought they were all approved here in Nebraska and now our State Legislature may reroute them and put them back a couple of years. This is thanks to many enviromental groups who put pressure on elected officials to think twice. I do not think the same can happen with the low level bureaucrats and a paid off Governor.

Nov 14th - 10:10am | See the Parks

I would like to see the author substatiate his claims versus throwing hyprebole. He even admitts he cannot substantiate his claims. This is pathetic pandering. The article assumes several things: 1) Global warming garbage (junk science constantly being disproved). The sun and its cycles are the number one contributor to cliamte change, not man.

Nov 14th - 10:00am | Anonymous

I'm guessing ecbuck has a See Eye Wolf, grounded in reality, leading his way.  Oddly we don't see more of them. 

Nov 14th - 09:42am | Lee Dalton

What kind of seeing eye dog do you have leading you?

Nov 14th - 08:27am | ecbuck

So where are the negatives?  See nothing here but unsubstantiated accusations and meaningless triflings.

Nov 14th - 07:50am | Lee Dalton

Ah, thank you NPT staff for including the "corruption of public officials" item here.

"Vital Signs" Report From Yellowstone National Park Points To Areas Of Concern In Park's Health

Nov 15th - 08:34am | Lee Dalton

Director George Hartzog in his 1988 book, Battling for the National Parks:

Birding in the National Parks: Northern Saw-Whet Owls At Assateague Island National Seashore

Nov 15th - 07:58am | Kirby Adams

I should add that setting up a mist net to catch migratory birds isn't something you can just go somewhere and do. It's not legal! There is a permitting process that reviews the research being done and the methods used. In this case there was also additional permission required from Assateague Island National Seashore, for which they should be applauded. 

Historians in Body Armor - NPS Staffers Document Ancient Towers in Afghanistan

Nov 14th - 22:20pm | Don Morris

Bravo!

Latest Studies On Yellowstone National Park's Wolf Packs Shows Stable Population

Nov 14th - 12:29pm | Anonymous

The problem is the researcher/biologists coming up with project after project (funded by tax dollars) to fatten their pockets whether it is to figure out why wolves were killing lots of bull elk or why the willows aren't growing despite dropping elk numbers by 70%.  The fact is records indicate that 50 adult wolves were killed over teh 14 years that wolves were killed along with 86 pups, that w

Hiking the Appalachian National Scenic Trail: It Takes More Heart than Heel

Nov 14th - 12:05pm | Tamera

Why yes, I'll be hiking in 2012.  How did you know? Great article, I also want that "pantywaist" quote in my house.  I love it.  You can follow my hike on my Tumblr page, and if you like donate to help make it happen.

Nov 14th - 06:35am | Danny Bernstein

About Tim Kelly ... Call the Appalachian Trail Conservancy - see www.appalachiantrail.org and see what they say. They will probably direct you to the trail maintanining club of the area. Good Luck Danny

Nov 13th - 18:19pm | BirdShooter

It was stated that ... the key to success for young people is to keep the distractions down. The more you stay on the trail, the better. If you go into town too much, you're spending money, maybe on alcohol, and you're not hiking.  

Nov 13th - 11:57am | k. washburn-kelly

My brother-in-law Tim Kelly started to hike the trail 8 weeks ago started in PA heading south.  No one has heard from him . we are trying to reach some "official" person who might tell us how we might find him but haven't had any luck. Any suggestions out there?

Blue Ridge Parkway Management Alternatives Draw More Than A Little Debate

Nov 14th - 09:57am | Anonymous

I enjoy driving the blue ridge parkway, and we are planning on camping along the parkway this coming year and in the future.  I completely support plan B that the Park Service has recommended.   While option C is attractive, during our rocky economic environment - I believe that being more fiscally prudent is the wise way to go. 

Stripping ESA Protections From Northern Rockies Wolf Packs Could Harm Yellowstone National Park Wolves

Nov 14th - 09:56am | Anonymous

I agree, Anon.  Believe there will be a day when they (Lib's) try a little body paint and call themselves Progressives which of course would be deceptive.  Two words that will/are becoming derogatory terms to most that are forced to pay for their whims and cronyism.  There are good Libs out there.  Unfortunately I'm related to some, lol.

Nov 14th - 08:40am | Anonymous

No effort here to enlarge anything.  Just posted, that's all.  It's for others to decide who's living in the parallel universe of reality/fantasy.  

Nov 14th - 08:00am | Lee Dalton

Anonymous, trying to have your post printed in a huge typeface won't make it any more or less true.

Nov 13th - 18:45pm | Anonymous

Among the tiresome lingo is phrases like "...the Libs...".

Nov 13th - 17:49pm | Anonymous

[size= 14px; line-height: 18px]"Another is that if the states are going to have managed hunts, there should be buffer zones around national parks and corridors that prevent populations from being isolated and genetically imperiled."[/size]

Nov 13th - 17:09pm | Bow wow

Your way, huh?  Interesting how the Lib's have co-opted Science.   And to think it all started with Bambi.  The reality is somewhere between Bambi and the jogger near Chignik, Alaska that was killed and eaten by wolves (non-habituated I hope).  Closer to the jogger but not trying to be inflammatory. The lingo just gets tiresome.

Nov 13th - 16:20pm | Wade H

Tomorrow I am giving a short speech on the importance on maintaining protections for wolves. I'm a senior biology student and this is just for one of my classes, but I've written every college paper I could on wolves because I feel like educating people is our biggest weapon in this fight.

BLM Considering Proposal To Expand Coal Mine Near Bryce Canyon National Park

Nov 14th - 07:42am | Lee Dalton

Add to all this the widely reported and much criticized story that Utah's Republican Governor Gary Herbert "fast tracked" state approval of the mining company's application last year.  This came only a few days after Herbert reportedly received a reported $10,000 campaign donation from the company and at about the same time another scandal broke regarding contracts for a rebuild of I-15 through

Congressman Pushing Legislation To Require National Park Gift Shops To Carry "Made In America" Items

Nov 13th - 21:48pm | Anonymous

Mighty American of all of you to find every excuse in the book to keep your neighbors out of work. the reason we are out of jobs is because very little is made in America. What is made in America, is overshadowed by cheap stuff coming from overseas. Our economy will never move forward with excuses. It starts with consumers demanding and buying American made producst whenever possible.

Three Canyoneers Survive Flash Flood in Zion National Park

Nov 13th - 20:48pm | Meg

Hi, just watching your story on the show, 'I Survived...' and I just wanted to thank the 3 of you for sharing your story and bringing awareness to such situations.  I'm glad that everyone survived and it's quite the story for years to come.  I'm sure it will save lives in the future.  

Popular Swimming Area At Capitol Reef National Park Closed Due To Dangerous Conditions

Nov 13th - 07:48am | Lee Dalton

Thanks, Local Resident.  Some facts are refreshing here.

Nov 12th - 20:57pm | Local Resident

Maybe your father and grandfather planted the flower because it was an endangered native species. If they planted something that wasn't native in a National Monument then they were breaking laws. Here is more info on that orchid from the FWS: Ute ladies'-tresses is found in three separate geographic areas of the interior western United States.

Nov 11th - 21:12pm | Taralyn Howard

has a 6th Generation Wayne County Resident...

Nov 11th - 19:03pm | Do I have it right

I didn't see Capitol Reef or any place in Southern Utah mentioned on your link about your orchid????

Updated: Man Missing In Rocky Mountain National Park's Snowy Backcountry Found

Nov 13th - 04:06am | Dale Lund

Please see our story at http://oldelephantwings.blogspot.com/2011/11/our-son-lost.html 

Bluffs Lodge Along The Blue Ridge Parkway Shuttered For 2011

Nov 12th - 08:01am | Susan Tilman

My brother and I stayed there finally last year after spending many childhood memories at Doughton park..It was a very special weekend right before it closed...Unfortunately my brother died suddenly 1 month later..I am SO glad we had that memory and special time at Bluff's.It was wonderful....PLEASE RE-OPen!!

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