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Plan To Open Everglades National Park To Python Hunt Condemned By PEER

Aug 29th - 08:43am | ecbuck

"There are books of regulations for compliance" There in lies one of the problems.

Aug 28th - 23:19pm | Rick B.

I asked today, Eric about your weed/EIS question. There are books of regulations for compliance specialists to be aware of. Specifically to your question,. some weeds, some places yes, some weeds some places no.

Aug 28th - 13:10pm | SmokiesBackpacker

They have been hiring professional hog hunters in the Smokies for years.  Many of us have come upon them.  It is common knowledge here.  Not that they have made any dent whatsoever in the population.  They are like coyotes.  You can't kill enough of them.  I suspect the pythons are a similarly no eradicatable pest.

Aug 28th - 10:27am | wild places

This sounds like PEER advocating on behalf of the union. I suspect that if public employees were hired to eradicate the snakes they wouldn't have an issue.

Aug 27th - 21:47pm | ecbuck

"it's the law. " Is it?  What is the trigger point that requires an EIS?  If they pull invasive weeds do they need an EIS? 

Aug 27th - 21:15pm | Rick Smith

EC--It's not beauracracy; it's the law. 

Aug 27th - 10:12am | SmokiesBackpacker

Unfortunately, what this episode really reflects is an advancing institutional decay in the quality of national park leadership."   They hit that nail on the head.  But old Pedro has Smokies ties so he is very well versed in poor leadership via the Jarvis model.

Aug 26th - 19:16pm | ecbuck

Rick - can you even conceive of a negative enviromental impact?  Sometimes common sense needs to overcome beauracracy. 

Aug 26th - 19:08pm | Rick Smith

One idea would be to have the park do some environmental compliance on the issue.  As far as I can tell, there has been none.  This idea deserves at least an Environmental Assessment, if not an EIS.  Opening a park to hunting is certainly a significant action and is controversial.

Aug 26th - 16:52pm | Harry Butowsky

Great Idea. Lets get them all and send any extra pythons to PEERS. Harry Butowsky  

Aug 26th - 10:11am | Anonymous

What does python taste like?  Might be some marketing opportunities there. Python burgers.  Python steaks.  Hmmmm.

Aug 26th - 03:13am | Ponani

opportunity to reduce invasive aninimal population while educating public and getting them to experience the park. All at minimal cost and little to no liability. This is a problem how?

Graffiti A Continuing Problem At Great Smoky Mountains National Park

Aug 29th - 07:47am | Anonymous

I wonder if people who would do this would be shamed by anything.  Social media attention might only fuel their depravity.

Aug 29th - 05:02am | wild places

Perhaps this is where social media could do some good by shaming those who feel the need to deface property.

On the Border: Two Countries, Two Great Parks

Aug 29th - 00:52am | Rudy Stefancik

There is a water fall a short distance to the south of the Goat Haunt landing, but when I was there a few years ago, you had to have a US or Canadian ID to get past US customs or a visa if you were from most other countries. I guess Customs is afraid of ISIS slipping through Glacier NP.......

Aug 27th - 16:13pm | Jim Burnett

Agree! Waterton has plenty to offer for scenic drives, day hikes and more. If you plan to take the boat trip via the M. V. International, be sure to check the schedule at this link. 

Aug 27th - 12:38pm | stephen morris

Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park is also a World Heritage Sites.  It was nominated by both the US and Canada and inscribed on the World Heritage List in 1995.  There are 23 World Heritage Sites in the US (including 2 shared w/ Canada).    

Wildfires Close U.S. 2 South Of Glacier National Park, Force Evacuation

Aug 28th - 13:18pm | Doug

Glacier National Park 100% open. Going to the Sun Road is 100% open for appropriate sized vehicles for travel in both directions. West Glacier Elementary school has Red Cross assistance so stop in and register to help or receive assistance. Locals donating places for people to stay if needed. Local businesses lending helping hands.

The Death Of A Bear

Aug 28th - 12:53pm | Rick B.

Wow. To ANONYOUSLY go in one paragraph from discussing bears to discussing a theocratic anti-abortion screed on a forum about the National Parks.   That's enough of a stretch that you'll never need yoga or pilates.

Aug 28th - 12:12pm | Sonny

I have read with interest the comments on social media in response to the latest human/animal incident. Sad to read these comments in light of the fact that God has made Man to be the only creature made in His image and He has made us stewards of his creation. So many of these commenters seem to exalt the place of animals above that of humans.

Aug 27th - 00:11am | cindy

Do you have a reserached-based evidence to back up your statment?  

Aug 26th - 21:07pm | Ray Bane

Bears rank among the most intellegent animals in existence.  They are amazing creatures able to master complex skills and to teach them to cubs and other bears.  Indeed, they are far more intellegent than the smartest dog.

Aug 26th - 13:27pm | ZigPope

We have seen pictures and videos of idiot visitors looking for the disgusting "selfie" that are crowding and scary our wildlife.  More animals are going to killed because of the poorest of judgements made by humans. FWIW-It wasn't a "quick shot to the head", it was a very inhumane "captive bolt" that doesn't not kill them, but stuns them. It is not a quick ending.

Aug 26th - 08:35am | Terri Schiavone

wow, so hidden or not so hidden in this story is  the "law suit" factor....thats it! Thats the real reason the bears are killed. Why not tell the truth here? The park service is afraid that someone out there will cry foul should an event happen to their loved one who just happens to be in the wrong place. Your logic is BS!

Aug 26th - 08:31am | Doug Rich

I appreciate the article written in response to this incident but I regret the parks decision to put the bear down.  Sure I understand its difficult to find locations willing to accept a bear that has killed a human but was that attempt made?  It seems to have been a quick decision and probably park policy to put the bear down.

Aug 26th - 08:02am | Deby Dixon

You are so right about the social media backlash for agreeing with the park.  It was a bit scary and I felt the need to try and walk a fine line but just asking people to curb their anger and act respectfully was met with anger.

Aug 26th - 07:57am | Deby Dixon

Great story Kurt!  It is unfortunate that people became so angry and abusive towards park administration during this time - I don't think that it helped bears any.  And, to be fair to many of us who are here, multiple reports came in from Lake residents saying that the man was most likely jogging because he do so on the trail regularly.

Aug 25th - 22:35pm | David Kornelussen

The "human" life is most assuredly most significant in the equation. The sows attack on the person is most tragic, the Sows killing and consumption shows a hungry bear with cubs to feed finding a food source , in this case "human" an easy catch. Also tragic for the sow and possibly her cubs future by witness of the sows attack ingrained in the cubs.

Aug 25th - 20:20pm | Anonymous

You're right! Bears are bears, being bears! Why punish them for assumptions that you also cannot prove, just like social meda"s uninformed inaccuracies?  Naming the animal or not has no bearing on my opion that you sentenced an animal to death for being an animal.  You are there to ptotect animals, right? So protect them from stupid, selfish humans!

Catch Autumn's Glow: Your Best Bets

Aug 27th - 21:14pm | Acadia on my mind

One of the reasons the fall foliage is so spectacular in Acadia National Park: The Great Fire of 1947, which burned nearly 17,000 acres on Mount Desert Island, leading to the deciduous forest that is so colorful today.

Yellowstone Saw Nearly 1 Million Visitors In July; Is That A Good Thing?

Aug 27th - 10:58am | CJDillon

Here's an interesting fact, in the same month (Last July) visitation for the entire state of Hawaii was 816,345.  

Aug 26th - 14:29pm | Kurt Repanshek

Gary, not the "weekly whims" of the Traveler if you've been paying attention.

Aug 26th - 14:05pm | Gary Wilson

Hmmmm. Always interesting watching the weekly whims of the media.  One week, they try to convince us that the National Parks are nearing extinction because no one visits them and the demise of their preservation is near, then the following week the tone changes that they are overcrowded...

Aug 26th - 10:56am | CJDillon

Regarding the term "loved to death," this is from a November 24, 1953 New York Times Editorial:

Aug 26th - 10:32am | Lee Dalton

CJ is right.  Maybe it's time for another Mission 66. But this time, let's not build more roads and parking lots.  Nor more huge visitor centers or hotels or cafeterias or marinas or, or, or . . . . . Let's seek SOLUTIONS for the complex issues that face our parks.

National Park management

Aug 27th - 10:17am | SmokiesBackpacker

Despite his troubled tenure at the helm of the NPS, the rampant culture of retribution and self serving continues.  At what point does the public demand that the NPS serve the public instead of itself?

Photography In The National Parks: Your Armchair Guide to Glacier National Park – Part 1

Aug 27th - 00:06am | susan 12

What do you recommend for the current smoky conditions?  

Native Cutthroat Trout Restoration Continues In Yellowstone National Park On Elk Creek

Aug 26th - 18:20pm | JrRangerJim

What were the fish populations of these streams prior to rotenone treatment?  Were there cutthroat trout that were killed too? 

Reader Survey Day: Where Is The Best Value In The National Park System?

Aug 26th - 16:58pm | Harry Butowsky

The best value comes from parks that are fully staff, maintained and appropriate to the National Park System.    Harry Butowsky

Aug 26th - 15:33pm | Anonymous

I'm with the anonymous who said buy a parks pass.  Mine more than pays for itself every year (but then I live within a day trip of three national parks, and a weekend's trip of several more).  Also, the value for me goes *way* up if it's a park I've never been to before. 

Aug 26th - 10:44am | snochasr

And if you are going to measure "value" by enjoyment divided by entrance fee alone, any park with a zero entrance fee has infinite value, mathematically speaking.  And do you value the chance of seeing a grizzly bear more than actually seeing one, and does it matter whether or not you have seen one before, or if you have your kids with you, or if the bear is actually fishing, or you actual

Aug 26th - 10:18am | Lee Dalton

I agree with all the others -- even ec! Although I have found some places more interesting and exciting or satisfying than others, there are great values anywhere you see a big Arrowhead with a bison on it. But just like books or movies, some will tickle the fancies of some folks more than others. It's the great variety of our parks that helps make them even better.

Aug 26th - 09:59am | Dave Crowl

I agree with ecbuck but i would a parks pass and see more than one in a year. Thats the best value.

Aug 26th - 09:59am | snochasr

What do you mean by "value"?  Is it some sort of recreation, viewing scenery or wildlife, or photographing them (which is a different "value"?  How about the "value" of just "setting foot in" a particular park, like Gates of the Arctic?   It's wonderful, but the cost of getting there is vastly more than the entrance fee of zero.  The commercial flights and the floatplan

Aug 26th - 09:15am | ecbuck

The interest fee is so small relative to the experience in most the major parks that "best value" really isn't a relevant question.  `

Are Women Better Conservationists? Revisiting National Parks And The Woman’s Voice

Aug 26th - 16:54pm | Harry Butowsky

Well done Al and a wonderful tribute to Nancy Ayers. I wish I had the opportunity to meed and know her.  Harry Butowsky

Never Let the Facts Get in The Way of a National Park Promotion

Aug 26th - 13:03pm | Doug Montgomery

Is the fallen tree the one whose tunnel was cut in 1881?

Denali And Rainier: Classic Climbs And Challenges

Aug 26th - 08:56am | Lance Singh

Mt Baker and Adams are similar mountains with a lot different routes to the top and situated out in the wilderness. Loved your article.

Corporations Lend A Hand To Insulate And Provide Sustainable Power To Yellowstone National Park Buildings

Aug 25th - 23:38pm | Rick B.

Agreed on both points, Lee. Moreover, it can help sort out experientially steps to take or not take into the future.

Aug 25th - 21:53pm | bonnie.wolven@g...

About time our progress in environmental design was adapted to human survival in our national park system.   Way to Go!  

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