So Lee who are the "few wealthy" people that are aided by this rider which wasn't snuck through in the dark of night without review but rather was the end result of years of effort and compromise. Again, while I would prefer single subject legislation, I see nothing nefarious in this particular rider and nothing that supports your unsubstantiated accusations.
Rick, I generally support the legislation, especially the part that gives more flexibility as to the timing of expenditures. However, given the number of comments here regarding the mis, mal and nonfeasance within the NPS administration (many from insiders) perhaps the legislation needs to include some internal reforms as well to insure the monies are spent wisely.
Instead of arguing back and forth about riders and the like, it seems to me that readers of NPT should get behind this proposed legislation and urge the Congress to adopt it. No matter whether, like backpacker, you think Jarvis is a poor leader or whether you are like ec, a conservative, I think we can all agree that a properly-funded park system in everyone's interest. My Congressi
Thank goodness we have a few watchdog groups that try to inform the public on issues like this. Here are some excerpts from an email I just received. Although not specifically aimed at NPS, these riders that are attached to an appropriations bill that target wolves and other endangered species are just a few examples of the literally thousands of similar riders slipped through every
Yes that is an example of an NPS official abusing/misusing his power. It is not an example of Congress sneaking in legislation that forces the Park Service to do things at its detriment for the benefit of a few wealthy people.
Sep 4th - 14:25pm |
Maybe the owner of the Washington Redskins qualifies as one of the privileged few who benefits from current NPS Management malpractice, at least partially influenced by political interference.
Sorry for the Anon - Didn't realize NPT had logged me out.
"For one, there was Sen. Coburn's amendment to a bill that opened parks to gun toting visitors.
I wasn't aware that only "a few wealthy persons" were gun toting visitors. If that is the best you can do, I'll have to continue to file it in the "empty accusations" file.
I've asked this question many times and now I do it again: "How much of the Park Service's alleged mismanagement, top heavy structure and other ills are caused by people within the Service itself and how much is imposed upon the Service and its people by Congressional fiat.? How often have regulations or other requirements been added as one of literally hundreds of hidden riders or amendm
Sep 4th - 07:59am |
These proposals, with higher fees, would tend to make the Parks once again a place for the privileged and wealthy, as they largely were in their early days. And this would be without fixing any of the National Park Service's fundamental problems. The NPS is underfunded. But, as Lee Dalton wrote, you could flood the agency with tax money and they would still waste much of it.
Lee Dalton- As they well should. Like the rest of us, NPS needs to learn to live within its means. This means reorganizing top heavy bureaucracy, eliminating micromanagement, and ensuring that more of the dollars that are already received actually go to the parks themselves.
Sep 4th - 04:04am |
And they should. Park Service needs to reorganize their top heavy bureaucracy and utilize more of the funding they receive to benefit the parks themselves. Right now you could give NPS a trillion dollar budget and they would piss it away on bureaucracy and cry for more.
Sep 2nd - 19:22pm |
Has anyone looked at the price of lodging in the National Parks. The prices certainly are not affordable for a typical middle class family. Take a look at lodging prices in Yellowstone & the Tetons.
What the parks *need* is more tax dollars. What the parks -- and the people who visit them -- do *not* need is lodging and camping prices so high people won't be able to afford to visit the parks that they own.
Sep 2nd - 12:14pm |
L. C Johnson
Here we go again.... We seniors worked, paid our taxes to support the park system.... Now we are retired and can and want to use the parks and the government raises our entrance fees. Raise social security to match the increase.
Anything that gets new people out to experience the parks is a good thing of course. But I'm wondering if their money might be better spent publicizing the Golden Age Pass and encouraging seniors to buy their own for just $10, giving them lifetime free admission, rather than for just 1 day.
This is a direct quote from the book, "Sins of the National Park Service in the Great Smokies"
"the National Park Service is accountable to no one-hardly even the President of the United States. They can do anything short of murder and get away with it."
Congressman John Duncan, TN
When I came on board with the NPS in 1969 as a seasonal ranger I was star struck and happy to be paid in sunsets. But as the years went along, I slowly became disenchanted as I climbed the career ladder into supervision. I quickly learned that many Park Superintendents were preoccupied with keeping visitation numbers up and expanding construction projects at every opportunity.
Sep 2nd - 20:22pm |
I don't lose sleep over the mangement of our National Parks, since they seem to have survived despite a regressive, corrupt culture. The Parks are still good places to visit because of dedicated field-level employees, especially seasonal rangers. Fortunately, their efforts aren't completely negated by a horrible, self-serving management structure.
A good point about getting around, Ron, but why did he wait until the seventh year of his administration to do it? Clinton and Bush were the same, only flying into the national parks when it suited some other agenda.
Thank you Rick B and d-2, I agree. Thanks also to the President for making this trip. In my own experience, I have found those that only sit behind desks are usually much less informed and effective than those who "get around".
Sep 2nd - 09:27am |
As a geographer, I generally look to the locals to know the names of the places near them and to pronounce those names correctly. Plus, since most Alaskans seem to have wanted the great one to be called Denali for a long time, I am happy for this change.
I oppose the multi-use trail. There are so many places people can ride their bicycles but there are very few places where hikers can walk without being in danger of being run-over by bicycles. There are many other objections as well which you have already listed in your proposal. The millions of dollars this would cost could be used to much better effect elsewhere.
I just returned from a trip to Zion's. When I was 19 (i'm 40 now) I attempted Angel's Landing. Right as we started the trail, a freak spring snow storm came out of no where. By the time we made it to the narrow spine before the final 1/4 mile ascent, the snow was over waist deep. I kept pulling the chain out of the snow drift. When the snow finally surpassed my naval, I threw in the towel.
Okay, anon, agreed. BUT when they are not respectful, then what?
Sep 2nd - 20:48pm |
There has been too many restrictions set byour so called leaders, This is the peoples country. as long as they are respectfull let them stay on the trail.
Sep 2nd - 19:57pm |
The ATers brought this on themselves. End it at Abol Bridge.
Sep 2nd - 09:59am |
They are going overboard, though no doubt there is also some hiker abuse. The obvious solution is one that works too great effect in other places like the Green Mountains and Adirondacks - a summit steward.
Dogs used to be the biggest pains in the rear in seashore areas where I mostly worked through the years. It seemed like dog owners thought it was cool to let their pets run rampant and could care less that other visitors are put off by their dog shaking sand all over them or being aggressive. I don't envy today's rangers having to enforce the regulation.
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