while you've been accusing me of fibbing and telling me it doesn't happen.
Really? Please identify where I did that? More baseless accusations.
Multi-topic legislation is an issue (as I have stated in the past) but Rep Lummis's bill is not multi-topic legislation.
". . . . legislation drafted by U.S. Rep. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyoming. Her measure specifically directs the Park Service to allow packrafters access to at least 50 streams in the two parks. . . . . . during last month's committee meeting she amended it"
Pipe Spring is a little diamond among the crown jewels of our parks. Here's a link to an article from Southern Utah News about one of the people who keep that diamond shining:
Stunning. Thank you, Barbara, for sharing this with us. I'd never heard of Gorongosa. The last part of the story especially struck me: ". . . Greg Carr's stated dream: "That we can achieve human development and biodiversity protection at the same time." It's a great dream unfolding, and the work in progress is a model applicable to national parks and wildlands worldwide.
Yes, argalite, but those cats were let out of the bag a long time ago. It's very difficult to reverse a problem. Much better to avoid them in the first place. Or better yet, find ways that achieve a well balanced approach to management. It might be different if Yellowstone was the ONLY place in the world where an activity could take place. But with literally thousa
Whatever else may be at the heart of this debate, from my experience, humans are not reliable. We have already done damage to so many other places. Boats do not get washed from stream to stream, therefore invasive creatures affect more and more waterways.
I am a kayaker, however I don't feel that gives me the right to kayak every bit of water in the USA.
Thanks, Thomas. Will do.
By the way, I do canoe and kayak and really enjoy it. Snowmobiles are a blast. I enjoy riding my daughter's ATV and certainly enjoy exploring in my 4x4, and I'd probably enjoy mountain biking, too. But I still think we should reserve at least a few precious places where none of those activities are permitted.
Nov 23rd - 10:57am |
Lee...This is Thomas Turiano...for some reason, my name is not coming through from the name field. Yes, about half of the streams I mentioned flow into Grand Teton. All of these streams are wonderfully navigable by small paddlecraft such as kayak, canoe, or packraft...some only in spring and early summer, others all summer and fall.
Thanks for the list, but aren't about half of those streams that flow into Grand Teton and not Yellowstone? And are Thorofare, Soda Butte, Slough and Hellroaring really "navigable" even by floats?
Nov 22nd - 21:23pm |
Thanks for the question!! Gros Ventre River, Spread Creek, Buffalo Fork, Pacific Creek, Pilgrim Creek, Snake River, Yellowstone River, Mountain Creek, Thorofare Creek, Soda Butte Creek, Slough Creek, Hellroaring Creek, and probably others I've missed...all wonderful floats that see some paddling use for many years with no apparent adverse impacts.
Anon, I can't think of any streams that flow INTO the park that might be at all navigable by any kind of craft. Isn't Yellowstone on a wide plateau upon which streams originate and flow OUTward? Which streams are you referring to?
Nov 22nd - 21:13pm |
Many of the mal-effects of paddling that you cite can be equally applied to other primitive uses of the river corridors such as angling, camping, hiking, swimming, horsepacking, etc.
Nov 22nd - 20:06pm |
It is important that this bill passes, but not for reasons people might think. I am a paddler and have supported this bill, but it is more about legislative check on an executive oversight, than it is about paddling.
Nov 22nd - 19:55pm |
A person would have to be blind, deaf, and dumb not to see the waterfowl, beaver, and other animals running away from the bank or scurying to find shelter in the streamside vegetation as they float a river. Paddling may be non-consumptive in some ways, but certainly not in it's effects on wildlife.
Whoa! I had completely forgotten about invasive aquatic species.
Nov 22nd - 16:43pm |
Mr. Jarvis' comments indicate why this bill needs to pass. Paddling is a non-motorized, non-consumptive use that is less-intrusive than currently allowed activites such as fishing and horsepacking. Its unfortunate that it is going to take an act of congress to correct this example of beaurcratic mangement run amok.
Please refer to Section 203 of the Bill, it has all the details. The hypelink is in my ordiginal comment and in the bosy of the article.
SEC. 203. CLOSURE OF FEDERAL LAND TO HUNTING, FISHING, AND RECREATIONAL SHOOTING.
And yet it will never be enough money for Jarvis. His constant poor mouthing and passing of the collection plate is never filled with tax dollars or schemes to charge the public once he receives more funds. Please give me more so I can charge you to use these lands.
Nov 23rd - 18:52pm |
Could you identify the "severe if not impossible restrictions" in the bill and elaborate when those restrictions might be "needed"
Lee, The "catch" is called the "Sportsmen's Act of 2015" which has more to with opening Federal Lands to hunting and shooting. It also places severe if not impposible restrictions on an agencies ablitiy to close those lands to those activiites if needed. Click here: Sportsmen's Act of 2015
Kudos to Glenn Gardner at www.g2photos.com. He has donated dozens of gorgeous photos to Everglades NP like this one used for the article! Everglades is so licky to have such an amazing volunteer who works to bring the Everglades and Dry Tortugas to life through his photography!
It's disturbing to me that an Associate Director of the NPS doesn't seem to know within 25% what her program actually cost. It also seems wishful thinking that a single or occasional childhood visit will "build a cadre..." of park supporters, comrades.
You write that the Northern Pacific Railroad "received about 47 million acres in federal subsidies between Lake Superior, Minnesota, and Puget Sound, Washington, and subsidies to cover about one-fourth of the railroad construction costs." In fact, it received only about 40 million acres and zero cash subsidies.
Very interesting that Devil's Postpile, surrounded by the Ansel Adams Wilderness Area, has a more friendly approach to dogs in the park. I am also pleased to see pet-friendly policies at Cumberland Gap, Cape Hatteras, and Cuyahoga Valley. I am very much in favor of consideration of more pet friendly policies throughout the NPS system.
Nov 20th - 04:46am |
Just about every one of those arguments is absolutely rediculous And down right laughable. National parks are meant to be a way for people to get out and enjoy nature, including with your dog, AT YOUR OWN RISK! But that is not for the government to make that decision.
Very nice review Lee. Very nice response Ron. In addition to population growth as an issue, what about near-term issues that will immediately put pressure on parks? I think of Baby Boomers reaching retirement age, and I think of a time, hopefully in the not too distant future, when American workers earn as much paid leave as their European counterparts.